Thursday, January 4, 2024

Edwin Quayle Cannon (Biography)

I previously posted a biography of my grandfather, Edwin Q. Cannon here. Following is a more comprehensive biography of my grandfather put together by my first cousins, Mary Alice Barnes Pearson, who started it, then finished by Kathryn Barnes Luke (Taffy). 

The following is a forward by Karhryn Barnes Luke:

Here is a biography of Edwin Quayle Cannon. I have not included footnotes throughout the story but do have all sources carefully documented - and can easily send you documentation for each statement in this story.
   
This biography was originally started by Edwin’s oldest grandchild, Mary Alice Barnes Pearson.  She was a major Cannon Family Genealogist since the early 1960’s and she had in her possession many original letters and sources for the George Q. Cannon family. She was also one of the main contributors to several Cannon family books and articles, including:

The Cannon Family Historical Treasury” - edited by Beatrice Cannon Evans and Janath Russell Cannon and printed in 1967.  (Janath, by the way, is a daughter-in-law of Edwin Q. Cannon)
George Q. Cannon - a Biography - written by Davis Bitton and printed in 1999.

Other sources include several personal letters from George Q. to his wife, and Edwin’s mother, Eliza Lamercia Tenney Cannon.  These were in a trunk that belonged to Eliza Tenney Cannon.  These were in Edwin Q. Cannon’s possession.  He gave them to his daughter Mary Cannon Barnes.  Mary’s son William Cannon (Bill) Barnes transcribed these letters and printed them in a volume entitled, Letters to Eliza Tenney Cannon from her Husband George Q. Cannon. Writings by both Edwin Q. Cannon and his wife, Luella Wareing Cannon, were also used.  Luella put together a rather extensive genealogical scrapbook on our ancestors which I have, and she wrote and published her own story in a book she called My Cup Runneth O’er, printed in 1969.  Again, Mary Alice Barnes had much of the original information about Edwin’s life that was used in these books. Finally, some of the grandchildren of Ed and Luella have happy memories that are shared in this biography.   

Unfortunately, Mary Alice Barnes Pearson died before she was able to complete this story so, as the next oldest grandchild, it has been my pleasure to continue with this project.  I have the cooperation, review, and approval of my cousins in this project. If you have questions or would like further documentation of anything in this story, please contact me. 

Sincerely,
Kathryn Barnes (Luke)
kvluke@hotmail.com

 Edwin Quayle Cannon


EDWIN QUAYLE CANNON 1886-1971
 
A short biography compiled from family records, his and his wife’s writings, and recollections of his grandchildren. Compiled by his granddaughter Kathryn Barnes Luke

Success
That man is a success
Who has lived well
Laughed often
And loved much.
Who has gained the respect
And the love of children.
Who has filled his niche
And accomplished his task.
Who leaves the world
Better than he found it -
Whether by an improved poppy,
A perfect poem,
Or a reached soul,
Who never lacked appreciation
Of earth's beauty Or failed to express it.
Who looked for the best in others
And gave the best he had.
- Robert Louis Stevenson
(Copied from Ed's personal notebook.  It was a favorite guide in his life)
 
This describes Edwin Quayle Cannon! Ed was born 7 September 1886, the third son of George Quayle Cannon and his third wife, Eliza Lamercia Tenney Cannon.  He was born on the George Q. Cannon Farm at a time when federal agents were hounding Mormon polygamists.

The surviving Cannon Farm buildings (and many are surviving) are located today south of California Avenue, on 1000 West in Salt Lake City.  On Feb. 4th, 1885, about a year and a half before Ed's birth, George Q. wrote Eliza from Salt Lake City:

"These are the days when we have an opportunity of testing the value of our religion and also of being tested ourselves. It is a blessed privilege to have the opportunity of suffering with the Saints of God. If we expect to reign with Christ we must be willing to suffer with him. Such times as these we are now having are such as we have been led to expect. The redemption of Zion will only be accomplished by the earnest labors and sufferings of the Saints, and we must make up our minds to bear our part."

She was instructed to write to him under cover through Abraham H. Cannon (fourth child of first wife Elizabeth Hoagland Cannon) at the Juvenile Instructor Office.

In March 1886, while Eliza was pregnant with Edwin, George Q. wrote the following letter (It was written one month after having been arrested in Nevada on February 13 while attempting to escape to Mexico to avoid arrest. He forfeited bail and was in hiding until he voluntarily turned himself in in September 1888.):

“My Dear Wife,
“How I would like to see and talk with you and learn how you are. I sincerely hope you are all right and that you have had no mishap. If you could only send me a line, telling me how you are it would be a great comfort to me. I pray for you constantly that no accident or evil of any kind may befall you and that you may be able to go your full time and have a child that will be healthy and perfect and full of the Holy Ghost from its birth.

“How are you and the boys and how are they doing? I hope you will find it convenient to have William go to school at Provo. The discipline there is of such a character as I am sure would do him good.

“My health is good and I am feeling well at being out of the hands of my enemies. Even the partial liberty I have I appreciate and think it far superior to being in some conditions and circumstances. I pray that we all may be kept out of the power of our enemies.
If we will only be patient, we shall see these enemies of ours go down. The Lord will not leave us to their mercy, but will stretch forth his arm in our behalf.

“Kiss the boys for me and give them my love and accept the same to yourself, my dear wife, from

Your loving Husband,
Geo. Q. Cannon”
   
Wives of polygamists were often summoned to court to testify against their husbands. Ed's mother was the only one of George Q. Cannon's wives who successfully avoided being subpoenaed.

For some time during her pregnancy, Eliza spent a lot of time living in Payson, Utah with her older sister, Jane Simon. When she was back on the Cannon farm, she, on more than one occasion, took baby Edwin in her arms and hid from the Marshals in the willows that grew thick along the banks of the Jordan River. For the rest of her life, her health was never very good.
   
Ed was the youngest of the three sons of Eliza and George Q. His oldest brother was William Tenney Cannon, born 5 September 1870 in Salt Lake City. He was named after Eliza Tenney's father, who had died of cholera about three months before she was born in Quincy, Illinois. Read Tenney was the second son, born 12 May 1875, also in Salt Lake City.  Read was probably named for Eliza's grandmother. Her father's parents were William Tenney and Judith Read Tenney. Edwin was probably named after his mother's older brother, Edwin Rich Tenney, who died in Quincy, Illinois in 1857 at the age of 21.
   
Ed was two and one-half years old before he was able to get to know his father. In fact, the year of his birth and the one following were particularly difficult years for the whole Cannon family. In 1885, political persecution for the practice of polygamy became more intense, forcing the religious leaders into hiding. His father was then serving as first counselor to John Taylor, President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He had been ordained an apostle in 1860 and subsequently served as a counselor to four Presidents, Presidents Young, Taylor, Woodruff, and Snow. By 1886 George Q. Cannon was the most sought-after political target in the Church because of his vast influence both inside and outside of the Church.
   
George Q., along with the other members of the First Presidency, were in hiding through most of 1888. We know that during this time he made several very brief visits to members of his family, but it is not known how many of the family members were able to meet with him during these surreptitious visits. It is certain that little Eddie was not able to spend enough time with his father to get to know him.
   
On September 17, 1888, George Q. turned himself in and spent the next 175 days in the Utah State Penitentiary. In the journal he kept while in prison, he recorded having many visitors, including several visits from the older children and other family members. It didn't record any of the younger children or any of his wives coming. However, on Saturday, December 1st the Warden took him to his farm for a visit. He recorded:

"On Saturday the Warden was kind enough to take me down to my house on the river to see my son Read who I was told was dying. I had a brief visit, with the Warden's permission, with my folks and my sister-in-law, Jane Simon. Read is very low. I felt well in administering to him. I took dinner at my wife Elizabeth's late residence - the best meal I have had in eleven weeks."

Read [Ed's older brother] had been seriously ill with a fever for some time, but did recover from this illness. It is probable that his father was able to see Eddie at this time, for a few minutes at least. George Q. was released from the penitentiary on February 21, 1889.
   
In a 20th Ward newsletter written in 1945, Ed wrote:

“My earliest memory is that of kneeling at the banister of the first balcony ‘box’ of the Salt Lake Theater and of being frightened at the tragedy being enacted on the stage. The ‘box’ was quite ample to comfortably seat six people so that the stage could be seen, and in addition had sufficient depth to permit a withdrawal from any view of what was going on. I took advantage of this means of escape from the terrible drama being enacted. In order to get to the theater, we drove the horse and buggy from the Cannon Farm to the old tithing yard, which was surrounded with a high cobble stone wall and was located just off Main Street, where the Presiding Bishop’s Office now stands.”
   
The Cannon Farm was a good place for a young boy to grow up. There were five homes - one for each of the five wives and her family. There were spacious lawns and gardens connecting the homes. There were other buildings, including the Cannon farm schoolhouse. On a map of the Cannon Farm as it was in the 1890s, hand-drawn by Ed’s brother Collins T. Cannon it shows a small building at the southwest corner of the farm, behind Eliza’s home, labeled ‘Wood Shed’.  In Collins’ writing it says: “Ed got licked here frequently”.  

In 1889 a streetcar line (called the Dinkey Car) ran out from town along 13th south so the kids could ride the streetcar into town to attend school. Then the schoolhouse became the family dining room. In 1896 the Cannon Ward was organized in the old School House/dining room and met there for two years until a new chapel was built.



Many years later Ed wrote the following concerning life on the farm:

"Father's Life on the Farm"

“During the latter years of Father's life, he was away a great deal, but due to the arrangement of family all eating together we saw a great deal of him when he was at home.

“It was during the early nineties that Father equipped the old school house as a dining room. All the families gathered together three times a day for their meals. At that time the cook was a Chinaman named Ye Sing. Fifteen minutes before mealtime the waiter rang the large school bell on top of the schoolhouse, and it was again rung five minutes before the time to start. Woe to him who was late! Sing, the cook, would stand by his meat block with his huge meat ax in hand and if the late comer cut thru the kitchen to the dining room Sing would bring down the ax on the block with exclamation "Chop 'em dam head off." On fast Sunday with the first meal at 4 p.m. after Fast meeting, you can bet there were no late comers.

“Before breakfast and before dinner in the evening the family knelt in family prayer. One evening Collins and I were playing in front of the Gashouse and forgot to come in until Father came after us. He merely lashed us three or four times with his napkin as we ran ahead of him, but the fear of his displeasure was greater than fear of the lashes.
“Sing served 'Bloston Blown Blead' Mondays, fish cakes Tuesdays, 'Black Belly pie' Thursday and 'Lice pudding' on 'Fliday'."
  
At another time, Ed wrote:

"One of my earliest memories of Father was being taken into his and Abram's presence with one or two of the other boys for some infraction of good behavior. The manner in which Father and our elder brother impressed us with the necessity of true repentance left no doubt or idea in our young minds that to be caught at the same offense would result in dire calamity."

There were many good times to be had on this farm for young people. Ed had five half-brothers close to his age for him to run around with (Radcliffe Quayle, Clawson Young, Espey Telle, Collins Telle, and Wilford Young). One of these five, Clawson (son of the fifth wife, Carlie) told of the activities he and his brothers took part in. There was rafting and boating on the pond, playing on an old, abandoned water wheel in the Jordan River, swimming in the swimming hole where their father swam with them on the rare occasions when he was home, ice skating in season and horses to ride. They had parties and dances frequently, a "really good" tennis court, and always enough fellows to form two teams for 'Rounders' (a game similar to softball). They also played such games as Run Sheep Run in the evenings on the spacious lawns. As they grew, older friends from town would come out to the farm for ice skating parties, dances, etc.
   
Even though George Q. Cannon had hired men to do the heavy work on the farm and gardeners to take care of the greenhouse, beautiful gardens and extensive lawns, and someone to take care of the teams and elegant coach, he made sure his children learned to work. All the children had their chores to do. According to his age and ability, each boy was assigned to milk and care for some of the cows. He was to separate and care for his portion of the milk and the last one done had the job of cleaning out the separator (after the family acquired one). The boys were also responsible for keeping the barns clean. Ed did his share along with his brothers. He told how his mother always kept a cow, and she taught him how to milk it when he was about six years old. He wrote, "Mother always kept chickens, generally one of the fancier breeds such as 'Silver Spangled Hamburgs' and 'Black Minorcas’.”
   
Ed also wrote of the family's celebration of the 24th of July. He wrote:

"I think there was no more enjoyable time had than at the family excursion to the West Jordan farm (Westover, Father called it) on the 24th of July. We got an early start necessitating very feverish activity from a very early hour so as to be ready when the carriages came around. Races and games were arranged, for Father got so much pleasure out of seeing his children contest athletically. However, the main interest centered around the luncheon held out in the orchard. If the season happened to be unusually early the June Red apples would be ripe enough to eat. I don't know why the excursion was abandoned in later years.”

Ed felt that:

"No father ever enjoyed more providing his children with things that would produce pleasure and congeniality among them. He frequently provided oranges for a feast among the children. One time he got a bunch of bananas and sat by and witnessed a banana eating race."

George Q. Cannon's birthday was always celebrated by the family with an elaborate dinner and program, and at least as early as 1895 with a nice, printed program which listed the complete menu and all the events and participants on the program. In that year, the younger children and older grandchildren all took the part of various flowers in a little skit. Ed was "Mignonette." These gatherings continued after George Q.'s death, and were held for many years on January 11th, George Q.'s birthday. It was a gathering the family looked forward to each year, and was always called "The Cannon Birthday", instead of the family reunion.

George Q. Cannon died on April 12, 1901, in Monterey, California. Ed later wrote:

"The last time that I saw father that I remember of was at a meeting at Aunt Carlie's after his return from his trip to the Sandwich Islands. (George Q. had gone to Hawaii in 1900 for the Mission Jubilee) His whole concern seemed centered in arranging his financial holdings in such a way as to provide the greatest benefit and protection to each individual of his family. He undertook the impossible in this matter however, as there is no plan of financing that is broad enough in its scope to keep funds intact for such a large group with their divergent activities and inclinations. Father's personality was so predominant and his family love so great that even years after his death we remember him and miss his example and wise council.”

Ed was just 14 years and seven months old when his father died.
   
Eliza, Ed's mother, had a strong streak of independence which she demonstrated a number of times. She forestalled punishment by their father by promptly punishing her boys herself when the occasion required. In 1897, she took Ed with her on the train to Taylor, Arizona to visit with the family of her older brother, Warren Tenney. And in about 1899 she took him back to the East Coast to meet his brother, Read, returning from his mission in Germany, and to Philadelphia, to see his other brother, William, graduate from medical school. George Q. demurred at letting Eddie go on two such choice trips, foreseeing correctly that the boys his age in the other families would demand similar favors. But she took him anyway and George Q. had to pacify the other boys by taking them on some of their own trips.

In 1905, his brother Read died, and in 1906 Eliza sold her house on the Cannon Farm and she and Eddie made their home with William T. Cannon, her eldest son, at 530 East South Temple.
   
Ed attended the Grant Elementary School and LDS High School, after which he worked for a while for the D & RGW and Union Pacific Railroads, and Western Union as a telegraph operator. While doing this he was transferred to several different locations, including Thistle, Utah; Cokeville, Wyoming; and Pocatello and Weiser, Idaho.
   
He then enrolled at the University of Utah. In a newsletter for the 20th Ward in 1945, he wrote:

“During my first year there, I regularly passed a red-haired girl on my way from the Library building to an 11 o’clock class in the Science building. She was on her way to a class in the Library building. Not having made her acquaintance, I could no more than look at her. I was introduced to her later in the year at a dance incident to the opening of the new (now old) gym. That was her last year at the “U” for she graduated. In spite of the separation in school activities, I managed to meet her from time to time despite her school teaching activity and the competition of some more favorably situated fellows. In the summer of 1907, I had to leave the field to the rest of them to answer a call to a mission in Germany. From that vantage point, I demonstrated the sanity of regular, but not too frequent letters, because upon my return home after an absence of three years, I found I was still in the running. Luella Wareing, the girl referred to, and I, in due course, became engaged and a year later, on June 21, 1911, we were married.”
   
His schooling at the “U” was somewhat limited because he left school to go back to work. The summer of 1907, he and two of his half-brothers (Wilf and Collie) went to Cherry Creek, Nevada to work for the Imperial Mining Co. He received his mission call by mail when he arrived in Cherry Creek. In a letter to Luella from Cherry Creek, dated July 22nd, 1907, he wrote:

“We had a great trip from Salt Lake, we got lost three times and were tied up on the desert three days with only enough water for one day, and only escaped choking to death by a mere chance, that chance being a good team.  It took us ten days when we only expected to be six.

Later in the same letter he went on:

“I expect to be home in about twenty days as I am called to go on a mission to Germany & Switzerland about August 28th.  You can’t imagine my anger at receiving a call on the day of my arrival here.  I don’t see why the[y] couldn’t have sent it three days sooner, then I wouldn’t have left Zion to come out to this God-forsaken hole.”
   
The mission call was to the Swiss-German Mission where he served from 1907 to 1910. When he and his mother determined he should go on a mission, they knew she would likely not live to see him return. She died when he had been in the mission field for about six months. He left Salt Lake on August 14, 1907, by train and traveled to Chicago, where he spent several days. From there he went to Niagara Falls, then on to Boston, where he spent a few days before his ship sailed. They landed in Liverpool, then on to London, then crossed the Channel to Holland where he spent a couple of days in Rotterdam visiting with his older brother, Sylvester, who was serving as president of the Holland Mission. He went on to Brussels and stayed a day or two with his brother Clawson, who was serving a mission there. When he finally arrived in Zurich, the mission headquarters, he was assigned to go to Tilsit. In route to Tilsit, Ed spent a couple of days in Berlin where he visited with his brother Tracy Y., who was there studying music. In Tilsit, Brother Hermann Babbel was his first companion. Brother Babbel later immigrated to Salt Lake where he had a home on the corner of 1st Avenue and A street. He was a tailor by trade and had his shop in his home. He and Ed remained life-long friends.

 Edwin Quayle Cannon as a missionary, signed
“Love Ed, Frankfort Main, Oct 14th, 1909

Serving a mission in Germany at that time was a difficult undertaking. The governments of the various provinces did not accept the Church, and proselyting by the missionaries was against the law. The missionaries were registered in the country as students, and if they were caught proselyting, or were turned in to the police by neighbors as being missionaries they were banished from the province. They had to be very careful. One way the missionaries kept "secrets" was to speak ‘Pig Latin’ among themselves. They were building a strong base of membership in the Church despite the difficulties. After a couple of months in Tilsit, he was re-assigned to Königsberg.
   
In notes from his mission he tells of ice skating, roller skating, and sword fighting. He also attended an air show in Frankfurt and took a trip to Heidelberg. He attended operas and theater. His complete mission journal has been transcribed by his grandson Bob Cannon and can be accessed at:  http://cannundrum.blogspot.com/search/label/index%20%20cannon%20family
   
At the conclusion of his mission, Ed, his brother Wilf, and two other missionaries who were released at the same time, made the "Grand Tour," touring much of Europe, then going to Serbia, Bulgaria, Turkey, Greece, Italy, Egypt, and Palestine.
   
Soon after his return from Germany, William and Ed bought an interest in the Salt Lake Stamp Company, with money that came from their share of the proceeds from the sale of George Q. Cannon and Sons (which later became the Deseret Book Company). Ed became its President and manager and remained so for almost forty years.
   
It didn't take long after his mission for Ed to become engaged to Luella Wareing, whom he had corresponded with throughout his mission. Elder Joseph F. Smith, then President of the Church, performed their wedding in the Salt Lake Temple on June 21, 1911. Following the ceremony, they had a wedding breakfast in Ed’s brother William’s home and a reception that evening in Luella’s parents’ home on 5th Avenue.  Ed's brother, Rad (Radcliffe Quayle, son of fourth wife, Martha Telle Cannon) married Maude Jennings Riter on 22 June 1911, and the two brothers plus another friend and their new brides went on their honeymoon together. They spent several days in three cabins owned by family friends in Brighton Canyon, Utah where they hiked to some of the lakes, did some fishing, played cards, and enjoyed playing and singing to the organ, which was found in one of the cabins. They hung a sign on the outside of the cabin saying, "JUST MARRIED - the agony is now over."
   
Ed and Luella first lived briefly in a home on Fourth East, then moved into an apartment in the home of his brother William, which was located at 530 E South Temple. They then built a home at 231 D Street in 1913. It was in this home that all three of their children were born and raised, and eventually, where both Ed and Luella died.
   
The year following the move to their new home, which was just half a block from Luella's parents' home, their first child was born. Their daughter, Mary Alice, was born on 24 May 1914. Four years later, on 6 May 1918, a son, Edwin (Ted) Quayle Cannon Jr., was born. A few months after Ted's birth the deadly influenza epidemic hit Salt Lake City. Luella became sick and lost her milk. Ed's brother, Collins T. (Collie) and his wife, Ida May lived across the street and had a baby, Bud (Collins T. Jr.) who was just couple of months older than Ted. Ida May was able to nurse Ted along with her own son. Seven years later, on 10 April 1925, their third (and last) child, William Wareing Cannon, was born. The births of all three children were attended by Ed's older brother, Dr. William T. Cannon.
   
The Cannon's led an active social life. For a number of years, they went dancing once a month as members of the Bonneville Knife and Fork Club. They would dress up, with the women wearing formals and the men in tuxedos and the group would have dinner then spend the evening dancing.

In the 1930's when B. H. Roberts' "History of the Church" was first published, Vida Fox Clawson, who was a widow at the time, approached Ed and Luella and asked them to arrange a study group in their home to study that history. Among those attending the first meeting were B. H. Roberts, Judge Oscar McConkie and his wife, and Mr. and Mrs. Henry D. Moyle. They decided to rotate homes and meet monthly. The hostess would provide the refreshments and the host would give the lesson. When Bryant S. Hinckley joined the group, he enjoyed giving the lesson, so he was invited to be the teacher. The group finally became too large to meet in the homes, so they started meeting at the Lion House. This group continues as the Cannon/Hinckley Church History group. Throughout the years, many prominent Church leaders have been members.
   
Ed was successful in business and turned the Salt Lake Stamp Company into a very successful venture. In addition to the Stamp Company, he held several other prominent positions. He was a leader in civic affairs, service clubs, and in politics. He was one of the founders of the Business Men's Alliance, and of the Executives Association of Salt Lake City. He was a charter member of the Salt Lake Kiwanis Club. He was on the Advisory Board for the Salvation Army, was involved with the Boys Clubs, and a member of the Sons of Utah Pioneers, where he served as President in 1955.
   
Ed was equally active serving in church callings. He held many leadership positions in the auxiliaries and Priesthood Quorums. He served as one of the Seven Presidents of the Thirteenth Quorum of Seventies in the 20th Ward area for many years.  On May 22, 1938, he was put in as the Bishop of the 20th Ward.  His first counselor was Lee A. Palmer, second counselor was Eldred G. Smith with Howard Cook as Ward Clerk. In December 1940, he was released as Bishop and called to serve as President of Ensign Stake. He held this position until October 1949. While serving as Stake President, he inaugurated a Stake Farm project which had its beginnings on south Second West, then later moved to 11th West, just north of 33rd South. During the years that he was Stake President, the whole family was included in trips to the Stake Farm out along the Jordan River to help pull weeds, pick corn, or thin beets - all the while swatting at mosquitoes.
   
He was encouraged to run for the Utah State Legislature by Pres. J. Rueben Clark, a member of Ed’s Ward and of the First Presidency of the Church, and Albert E. Bowen, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. He was elected in 1947 and again in 1949 but left in June 1950 when he was appointed to be the Mission President of the West German Mission.
   
Ed served as President of the West German Mission for 39 months, from June 1950 until November 1953. At that time, the mission covered West Germany - north to Denmark, west to Holland and France, south to Switzerland, and east to the Iron Curtain. The country was still recovering from the devastation of World War II and was struggling with the political unrest caused by the control of East Germany by Russian Communists. While serving in Germany a large building program began and chapels were built in Frankfurt, Stadthagen, Munich, Hamburg, Eppendorf, Herne, Langen, Saarbrücken, and Essen.  Land was acquired and plans drawn for several other chapels. They remodeled what had been the Anheuser Mansion in Frankfurt to be a beautiful new mission home.  It was a bombed-out shell when they acquired it, and they made it into a beautiful home and office. In 1953 the Church was recognized by the German government. One of the highlights of their mission was the visit of President David O. McKay in June 1952.
 
With President and Sister McKay in Germany, June 1952
L to r: Edwin Quayle Cannon, Luella Wareing Cannon, President David O. McKay, Sister Emma McKay, Mildred McKay, Lawrence McKay
 
After returning from Germany, he served as a Salt Lake County Commissioner for ten years, from 1954 to 1964. This was a time when many decisions were made which greatly affected the future of the county. Ed Cannon was instrumental in making many of these decisions. There was much pressure to build the Salt Palace Convention Center at other locations in the valley, but he wisely influenced the decision to build it in downtown Salt Lake City. The State Penitentiary on 21st South and 13th East was torn down and replaced by the then new facility at the Point of the Mountain. Many different uses were being recommended for the old prison property. He responded to the appeal of the Sons of Utah Pioneers to turn it into a public park and his strong influence resulted in the creation of Sugar House Park. The Metropolitan Hall of Justice in downtown Salt Lake City was also started during his term in office. He participated in the ground-breaking for that facility.
   
He later became a sealer in the Salt Lake Temple for a number of years. In this capacity, on September 16, 1966, he performed the wedding ceremony for his granddaughter, Kathryn Barnes.
   
His administration of the Ensign Stake Farm, the Salt Lake Stamp Co., and Salt Lake County government demonstrated his innate fairness. He guided the Stamp Co. through the depression by reducing his own intake to assist others in staying afloat during that very difficult period. While administering the affairs of the Stake Farm, he would never ask others to do what he was unwilling to do. He was often observed taking the lead in dangerous and/or dirty tasks. One such example was the time Ed crawled into a tight culvert to break up an obstacle which impeded the flow of water. It seemed like a dangerous job, but he went at it with complete confidence. As a County Commissioner, he was given a county car for his use but after a couple of years, when he was told he needed to replace this car with a new one, he refused. He continued to drive the older model Buick, much to the consternation of his fellow commissioners. Ed's son, Bill, tells of how Democrat Marv Jensen, who served alongside the Republican Ed as County Commissioner, said, "Ed Cannon was one of the fairest men I have ever had anything to do with."
   
Ed enjoyed activities that increased physical fitness. While on his first mission to Germany, the missionaries often got together and held races, jumping contests, walks in the forest, etc. He was a long-time member of the Deseret Gym and would meet regularly each week to play volleyball. During fair weather, he would often walk to work. At lunch time, he had his meal at home followed by a short nap, usually on the small bed on the back porch. He claimed this helped his digestion and increased his ability to concentrate. He had a healthy and varied diet and used food supplements that he felt would assist him in remaining healthy and feeling good. One of these was alfalfa tea. He felt that it was beneficial to drink several glasses of water at the start of each day. He loved buttermilk, and during a period prior to World War II, he often took his family to Colville Ice Cream, located on the south side of First South between West Temple and Second West (where the Salt Palace stands). He would purchase ice cream cones for everyone except his son, Bill; then he and Bill would proceed to drink cold buttermilk, at the bargain price of five cents per glass. Grandfather’s taste in foods amused his grandchildren. Bill Barnes remembers a time when he stayed at their home for several days. Grandmother would ask if Bill would like a particular food, and Grandfather would respond, “Of course he would.” Bill, like all of us, could never say no to Grandfather so he ate cooked carrots and other foods he would never eat at home. Grandfather ate turkey gizzards and Chow Chow pickles at Thanksgiving dinner. He liked sauerkraut and strange cheeses. In fact, there were very few foods he did not enjoy.
   
Ed inherited a love of animals from his mother and passed it on to his children. They always had pets. There were many cats and dogs, and at various times, chickens, rabbits, and ducks. For a while they had a family of goats that were a gift from Uncle William. Ted also had a monkey and a parrot that he won from a radio station contest. At one time Ted had arranged to buy a horse for an extremely reasonable price and figured it could graze in the vacant lot next door, (where they later built a rental duplex), but his mother finally put her foot down.
   
Ed’s family was extremely important to him, and they enjoyed many activities together. When their family was young, they often went camping over the 4th of July. In 1918 when Ted was just two months old, they were camping and fishing up in Daniels Canyon for the 4th of July holiday. And in 1920 they were up American Fork Canyon for the 4th of July.
   
At least one summer while the children were all still at home, they went to Monticello to vacation with Judge Oscar McConkie’s family at their ranch. Mary often talked about this trip up into the Abajo (or Blue) Mountains where they made up one big, long bedroll and all of them (both families) slept in this one long bed.

Because of his ownership of Salt Lake Stamp Company, Ed joined the Marking Device Association. They held annual conventions in various places around the country. Ed went to most of the conventions, occasionally taking the family with him. He and Luella went to the East Coast in 1920, taking Luella's father, George Wareing, with them. On this trip they went to the Church history sights in New York and to Niagara Falls.
   
The next year, in June 1921 he piled his own three children, Luella, her two sisters, Norma and Lucille, and her mother Mary Ann Critchlow Wareing, all the camping gear and food into the car for a trip to the Grand Canyon. He had made two long wooden boxes to fit on the running boards of the car to hold all their equipment. They went to Bryce and Zion Canyons and stopped in St. George to visit the temple and then went on to the Grand Canyon. On the way back, the car broke down up on the Kaibab Plateau. Someone came along and towed them into Kanab where they had to camp for three weeks waiting for the part to fix the car to be shipped from Salt Lake.
   
In the summer of 1929 the family, including the three children, Luella, her mother Mary and her youngest sister, Lucille, drove back to the East Coast to a Marking Device Association convention in Providence, Rhode Island. Paved roads were a rare occurrence and were worth commenting on in the journal they kept of that trip. They were gone for five weeks and visited all the church history sites in the Midwest and the East, visited relatives and friends all along the way and conducted Stamp Company business in several places. They saw the sights in Washington D.C. and Mount Vernon. They visited the dirigible base at Lakehurst, New Jersey, (where on May 6, 1937, the German Airship, Hindenburg caught fire and was destroyed). They went swimming in the ocean at Atlantic City, stayed with relatives in New York City, took the train to Boston where they toured the city, visited Concord and Lexington and Plymouth. They returned to New York by overnight boat and then attended the Convention in Providence. One of the sessions of the convention was a clambake at a country club out on Narragansett Bay where a photograph of the whole group was taken. While they were in Providence, a reporter from the Providence newspaper called and wanted Luella to consent to be interviewed. She had found out that they were Mormons from Utah, and that Ed was the son of George Q. Cannon. The article was published the following day. After the convention, they went to the birthplace of Joseph Smith in Vermont where they spent the 4th of July, then crossed Lake Champlain and toured the Adirondacks. They went to Palmyra, then Niagara Falls, and finally headed home. A car trip such as this in those days was uncommon and difficult, but it was a treasured memory.
 
In 1936, Ed and Luella went east again. This time Mary was married, so just Ted and Bill went along. On this trip they visited Luella's brother George and his wife Dora, and their daughters Elaine and baby Barbara in Cleveland. They also visited her other brother Clarence, and his wife Ruth, in Rochester New York. On that trip they went to a Major League baseball game between the World Champion New York Yankees and the Cleveland Indians. Players included the home run king and MVP of 1936, Lou Gehrig, in addition to future Hall of Famers, Joe DiMaggio (Yankee) and Bob Feller (the young pitcher for the Cleveland Indians).
   
At some point, probably in the late 1930's or early 1940's, Ed made a pack trip into Rainbow Bridge. At that time the only way to reach Rainbow Bridge was either by hiking, or by horseback across the Navaho Reservation. This was a trip very few people made, unlike today when it is easily accessed from Lake Powell.
   
The 1930‘s brought changes to the Cannon family. Mary graduated from the University of Utah, and on her father's birthday, September 7, 1935, she married Robert (Bob) H. Barnes in the Salt Lake Temple. (Incidentally, that was also Bob's mother's birthday and the anniversary of Luella’s parent’s wedding). Ed and Luella's first grandchild was born March 19, 1937, to Mary and Bob. She was named Mary Alice after her mother. The doctor who delivered her was Ed's brother, William T. Cannon. He had also delivered all three of Ed and Luella's children.
   
The latter part of 1937, Ed’s son Edwin Q. Jr. (Ted), received his mission call to the German Mission. He left the end of January in 1938, and experienced Germany during the lead up to World War II. This must have been a worrisome time for his family at home. By the first part of September in 1939 the war was on, and the German missionaries were sent back to the United States and Canada. He finished his mission in Ontario, Canada. It was here that he got to know his future wife, Janath Russell, who had been serving a mission in France and was also evacuated to Canada to finish her mission.

Ted and Janath were married on 13 August 1941 in the Salt Lake Temple. Within four months of their marriage the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the United States was at war. They went off to Camp Lee, Virginia where Ted attended Quartermaster School - a welcome alternative to going overseas.
   
In the meantime, Ed’s son William Wareing (Bill) completed high school and enrolled in the University of Utah. He had the opportunity to enroll in the V-12 program, which allowed him to join the Navy, and enroll at the Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago. While there, Bill was hit by a car and very seriously injured. Ed and Luella were on the train headed for Chicago almost immediately. Ed stayed for a few days then had to return home, leaving Luella to care for Bill.
   
By 1942, Bill and Ted were both in the military and far away from home. Also in that year, on July 20th, Bob and Mary had their second daughter, Kathryn (she was the last baby delivered by Ed's brother, William T. Cannon).
   
When the war ended, Ted went to work as an officer and full-time employee at the Stamp Co. Then, when Ed received his call to preside over the West German Mission, Bill agreed to come into the business.
   
For Ed, or “Pop”, or “Grandfather”, as he was known, traditions were important. One of the most cherished traditions was the celebration of Christmas. On Christmas Eve the family would gather in his and Luella’s home about 5:00 in the evening. In the early years, Luella's parents and her brothers and sisters and their families who lived in Salt Lake were always included. If Jack Sears (a very close friend and well-known artist) and his wife were in Salt Lake, they were invited. Later, as grandchildren came along, there was often a re-enactment of the nativity scene and performances on various musical instruments. Then presents would be exchanged. There was always an abundance of good food to eat. This was an evening the grandkids would look forward to all year.
   
While Luella's parents were living, Christmas Day afternoon was spent at their home at 373 5th Avenue, one half block from Ed and Luella’s home. There was a big Christmas dinner, and it was great fun getting together with all the cousins. For many years, New Year's Day meant another big dinner next door to the Luella’s parents at Tom and Norma (Luella’s sister) Brown’s home.  
   
Sunday evenings were often spent together. At times, the family would get together at Tom and Norma's for the evening where singing was the highlight. Tom had been in Vaudeville before marrying Norma and had a very good voice. Lucille's husband, Mac, also had a good voice, as did Ed & Luella's sons, Ted and Bill. There were several songs that were old standbys. "When You and I Were Young, Maggie" was a particular favorite, and "Carry Me Back to Old Virginy" was always sung.
   
Summer Sunday evenings, saw the family frequently gather on the large front porch at Ed & Luella's. There was a glider swing at the far end with a number of chairs filling in the rest of the porch. The brick wall on the porch made good seats if there was a large crowd. Granddaughter Ann remembers arguing over who would get to sit on the glider swing and how “Pop” took delight in giving a squeeze on our leg just above the knee to make us squirm. Myra remembers Sunday visits on the porch when Grandmother would pass around the See’s Chocolates - we could have “just one”!
   
On other occasions the family gathered in the back yard. The big green Adirondack chairs were great to sit on. A cherry tree and two big old Astrakhan apple trees were great for climbing and provided shade for much of the yard. (These apple trees also yielded small apples with a wonderful flavor for applesauce, apple pies, and jelly.) Grapevines covered the area next to the house where tables of food were usually set up.
   
Ed Cannon had a true love of adventure and never seemed afraid of anything. He bought a car soon after he was married and enjoyed driving out in the country. He liked to go to Pelican Point on Utah Lake to fish for catfish, often taking Luella and the children with him, and in later years, taking some of the grandchildren. He used to go deer hunting every year and would go pheasant and duck hunting and even rabbit hunting on occasion. Early on he started what became a traditional rabbit hunt on Armistice Day (now Veterans Day), and all the fellows who worked for him at Salt Lake Stamp would go. This tradition lasted for many years.
   
While Ed was serving in the State Legislature, he drew out in the annual antelope license lottery. Once he took Ted and Bill up into Daggett County where he bagged a 210-pound buck. The amazing thing is that the three of them made the approximately 500-mile trip in Ted's small Crosley automobile, bringing the big antelope home with them and meriting a picture in the newspaper. In the caption under the picture, the reporter stated: "Rep. Cannon is one of the most ardent fish and game boosters on the current legislative roster."
   
One fun story that has been passed down was about a drive out to the Uintah Basin. The narrow dirt road, which has now become Highway 40, was dusty and the day was hot and dry. They soon caught up with a car with an eastern license plate which was going slowly and refused to move over to allow Grandfather to pass. Obviously, this car did not want to “eat the dust” and was going to stay in the lead. After several unsuccessful attempts to pass, Ed reached under the seat and pulled out the pistol that he kept there. He unrolled the window, aimed the gun straight up into the air and pulled the trigger. Never has a car moved over to be passed so quickly. Grandfather laughed as he recalled the way he taught that “Easterner” about the “Wild West”.
   
He taught his children to shoot. He set up a shooting range in their basement where they could practice. When Mary was in her teens, he bought her a little .25 caliber pistol. He taught her to shoot, and wanted her to carry it in her purse, but she refused. Several of his grandchildren would borrow his .22 rifle to go rabbit hunting.
   
It was Ed and Luella who took the grandkids (and their parents) to the Shrine Circus when it came to town, to the Days of '47 Parades, to the Zoo and to see the trains down behind the Union Pacific Depot. Sometimes they just went for a ride in the evening to get an ice cream cone, or to follow a dirt road somewhere just to see where it went. All the grandchildren recall numerous rides. Grandfather always drove - Grandmother never even had a driver license - yet she never hesitated to give him directions. We often heard her say, “Oh, Ed, slow down!”
   
While he was serving as County Commissioner, several of the younger grandchildren and older great-grandchildren remember going to his office after the Days of ‘47 Children’s Parade. His secretary got popsicles for all of them.
   
Labor Day was another day for a family get-together. In addition to the holiday, it was a celebration of Ed's birthday (Sept 7th). After he and his sons acquired the ranch in Oakley, this gathering was always held there. The family also gathered at the ranch on the 4th of July. They would attend and/or participate in the Oakley Parade in the morning. This was followed by either a big lunch at the ranch or, on occasion, lunch and a program at the Oakley Ward house. Some of the grandchildren participated in the Kids Rodeo, winning chickens or a pig, or getting thrown from a calf. This 4th of July tradition continues.
   
There were several visits to Southern Utah over the years. In 1947, Ed’s son Ted had been invited to run the Colorado River from Moab to Lees Ferry with Don Harris and Jack Brennan (Harris & Brennan River Expeditions). They were going to put into the river at Moab on July 5th, and Ed and Luella decided to go down and camp with them the night before to see them off. They stopped in to visit Mary and Bob the night before they were going to leave and invited them to come also. The answer was, “no “. But apparently after the ‘folks’ left, and the Barnes children had been put to bed, Bob and Mary talked it over again and decided to go. They woke the children early the next morning and left. Everybody camped on the old sand dunes just north of the river. The next morning the boats were loaded, and the boaters took off down the river. Trip member Al Morton filmed the trip, and the film later won an award at some film festival.
   
In April 1947, Bill and his wife Marg were called on a mission to Hawaii. The following spring, as Bill was serving as 2nd counselor to the Mission President, Ed and Luella spent 2 months visiting the Islands.
   
After the Villa Theater opened in December of 1949, Ed and Luella took the whole family, including the grandchildren, to the big movies which opened there. It was exciting to see the new Cinerama movies including "Around the World in 80 Days," "The Ten Commandments” and, Ann especially recalls, “How the West Was Won”.
   
In 1956, Ed and Luella, Ed's niece, Marjorie Pingree, and her husband Fred, and son John, started off on another adventure. They drove from Salt Lake, down through Mexico, to Guatemala to pick up the Pingree's oldest son, Toby, at the completion of his mission.
   
At some point in the 1950’s, they also added to the growing list of travels by taking a trip to Alaska. They loved all their great adventures.
   
In August of 1957, Ed and Luella decided that the entire family should take a trip to Yellowstone together. Each of their children had a big station wagon, and Ed & Luella took turns riding in the different wagons. At this time Mary, Ted, and Bill each had five children. The first night’s camp was at Tony Grove, a big camping area in Logan Canyon. Then on to Grand Teton National Park where the family camped at the new campground at Colter Bay. There were boats that would take visitors out for a cruise on the lake, so the whole family went on a cruise. The next stop was in Yellowstone, where it was fun to watch Grandfather feed the bears out of the car window, and to see Grandmother cautioning him frequently not to feed the bears. While camping, we chased a young bear out of camp by banging on pans and were sworn to secrecy by “Pop” so Grandmother would not be frightened. The visit to Old Faithful was a fun highlight. Everyone had lunch in the Old Faithful Lodge, sitting around one long table.
   
In 1964, Ed and Luella signed up to take a trip to the Holy Land over Easter. They arranged for Ted and Mary to meet them in Rome at the close of the tour and together they spent about a month touring Europe in the car Ted and Mary had picked up in Germany on their way to Rome. They toured Switzerland, Germany, England, and the Isle of Man, (where they found that the big motorcycle races were being held, and all the main roads around the island were closed to cars.) On this trip, they were able to visit Mary's daughter, Kathryn, who was serving in the French Mission.
   
A year or two later, Ed and Luella decided to take a tour of the Pacific Rim. They invited Ted and Janath to go with them. Janath went with them as far as Hawaii, then returned home, while Ted accompanied them for the entire trip. They spent some time in New Zealand and in Australia, where Ted and Ed met with businessmen concerning ‘Leader Tags’ (plastic ear tags for sheep and cattle that were sold and exported by Salt Lake Stamp Co.). They also went to Hong Kong and to Japan.
   
In 1971, Ted was called to be the President of the Swiss Mission. He and Janath left on July 10, sadly knowing that his father would probably not live to see them return. Shortly after Ted left, Ed called Ted’s home in the middle of the night (Ed’s granddaughter, Ted and Janath’s daughter Ann, was living in her parent’s home while they were away) and said, “I am locked inside the Stamp Co. and don’t know how to get out!” Ann called her Uncle Bill, and he found his father at home, hallucinating because of his advancing illness. Ed passed away within that week on 3 August 1971.
   
Ed was born in very trying times. He never had his father in his home and available to him on a regular basis. But from his childhood he learned a strong moral work ethic and a total devotion to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He did not have advanced education or great wealth, but he ran a very successful business and was one of the top civic and political leaders in the Salt Lake Valley throughout his adult life. He was trusted, respected, and admired by all who knew him - even by his opponents. His testimony of the restored Gospel was total and unwavering. He accepted callings given to him and served faithfully. He practiced “pure religion” as defined in the book of James. He had no hypocrisy or guile. No one will ever know the countless ways he helped others, both spiritually and physically, because they were known only to those directly involved. Neither his father nor his mother saw him reach maturity or knew his wife and children, but he learned the meaning of “family”.  As a husband to Luella, he was loyal and supportive. As a father to his children, he was attentive and instructive. As a grandfather he was fun and loving. He was a source of strength and an example to all of his family. Though he was soft spoken and a man of few words, he gave clear direction and insight. He found the best in others because he made them see their potential. He gave the best he had, and we are all better for having him touch our lives.

At the time of his death, on 3 August 1971, he and Luella had three children, their spouses, 18 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren, as follows:
 
Daughter Mary Cannon Barnes, born 24 May 1914, married Robert H. Barnes 7 Sep 1937
        Mary Alice Barnes Pearson, born 19 Mar 1937, married M. Ray Hansen 1st, (married R.
        Clair Pearson 2nd)
            Michael Ray Hansen, born 25 Dec. 1957
            Paul Robert Hansen, born 19 Apr 1959
            Philip Carlton Hansen, born 30 Mar 1962
        Kathryn (Taffy) Barnes Luke, born 20 July 1942, married Robert G. Vernon 1st,
        (married Stacy Luke 2nd)
            David Vernon, born 25 Apr 1968
            Linda Vernon, born 11 June 1970
        Robert (Pat) Patrick Barnes, born 1 Dec. 1946
        Edwin (Ted) Cannon Barnes, born 18 Dec. 1951
        William (Bill) Cannon Barnes, born 27 July 1953

Son Edwin (Ted) Quayle Cannon Jr., born 6 May 1918, married Janath Russell 13
Aug 1941
        Ann Cannon, born 14 Jan 1947, married Richard D. LeVitre 1967
            Jonathan Brett LeVitre, born 11 Dec. 1968
        Edwin (Ned) Quayle Cannon III, born 30 Nov 1948, married Lois Kay Hinckley,
        1971
        Melissa Cannon, born 4 Sep 1950
        Russell Rich Cannon, born 24 Nov 1953
        Tenney Wareing Cannon, born 19 July 1956
        Myra Oertel Cannon, born 20 Apr 1957

Son William (Bill) Wareing Cannon, born 10 Apr 1925, married Margery Sorensen,
13 Sep 1946
        Michael Melville Cannon, born 28 Oct 1947, married Patricia Jane Jackson 29
        May 1969
        David Dana Cannon, born 6 Jan 1949
        Layne Wareing Cannon, born 27 Nov 1950
        Wendy Cannon, born 2 Sep, 1952
        Robert Wareing Cannon, born 18 Apr 1957
        Merrilee Cannon, born 17 Dec. 1959
        Christian Cannon, born 28 Dec. 1963
Edwin’s youngest grandchild – Matthew William Cannon was born to William Wareing Cannon and Margery Sorenson Cannon on April 3, 1973, after Edwin’s death.
 
MY GRANDFATHER
Final comments by Kathryn Barnes Luke, the author of this biography

I consider knowing my Grandfather Cannon one of the great blessings of my life. Because I was old enough to know him longer than most of the ‘cousins’, I would like to share a little of what made him so important in my life.

There is much I could say about the many stories he told me, or about the strange foods he liked to eat, or how I looked forward to him dropping by to take us for a ride – and the unusual places we would visit. But I choose to focus on three guidelines I received from him which have greatly influenced my life:

First
During my senior year of high school my parents gave me a Bible. In the front of the book, my mother wrote:

May 26, 1960
To Kathryn with all our love
From Mother and Dad
The following is from the fly leaf of your Grandfather’s Bible.
To
Edwin Q. Cannon
From his Father
George Q. Cannon
Christmas,
1898

“How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! Refuse not instruction, reject not reproof. Love the Lord with all thy Heart.”

This has been wise guidance and has served me well. I not only appreciate the scripture (Proverbs 16:16), but the admonition. Each time I open my Bible I am reminded of where I come from and the expectations my family has for me. I know that Grandfather heeded the advice of his father. I want to follow in his footsteps.

Second
While I was in high school, Grandfather was a County Commissioner. Because the County provided a car for him to drive, he allowed me to drive his 1949 Ford. West High School was a long walk from our home and most of my friends lived several miles from me, so my mom spent a lot of time taking me to places I needed to go. When he gave me the keys to the car, he simply said that he hoped this would save my mom from spending so much time chauffeuring me. He added that he knew I would never do anything with this car that would be irresponsible. Knowing how much he trusted me was enough. I never went anywhere or did anything that I would be uncomfortable telling him about. He had a very understated, clear way of expressing his love and his expectations. He didn’t have to say a lot to get his point across.

Third
I had always assumed that I would attend the U of U as everyone else in the family had done, but during the summer before I started college, I visited BYU with a friend. I was very impressed with the school and started thinking about going there. In discussing the possibility with Grandfather, I stated that perhaps I should just go try it out and then make up my mind later. He told me to decide what I wanted to do, make sure my decision was right, and then stick to it. He said that I should not waste my time waiting to decide what was right. I learned that this is a good way to live – it saves a lot of time and frustration. I haven’t always followed this advice, but I can tell the difference in my personal growth when I have.

We often talk about the importance of a “Hero” in a person’s life. To me a hero is someone who is wise and caring and who can help you reach your potential. Grandfather was such a person in my life.
TAFFY (Kathryn Barnes Luke)
July 2000

Tuesday, January 2, 2024

Georgius Y. Cannon on George Q. Cannon

[Georgius Y. Cannon was the youngest and only living child of George Q. Cannon when he visited my Grandmother Cannon's home on May 22, 1975 to talk about his father, George Q. Cannon, who is my great grandfather. I was nearing the end of my senior year of high school and was there. This transcript came from a Word version emailed to me by Bill Barnes, my first cousin, in September 2023. Bill subsequently made some updates which he sent me in pdf form that are not included here.]

On May 22, 1975, Georgius Young Cannon[1] , who was born March 6, 1892 and died March 29, 1987, came to Edwin Q. Cannon and Luella Wareing Cannon’s home at 231 D Street and visited with Luella and a number of her family/descendants (Edwin was Georgius’ half-brother, the son of George Q’s third wife, Eliza Lamercia Tenney, and had passed away in 1971) and reminisced about his life growing up with his father, George Quayle Cannon.  It was recorded by Robert G. Vernon, and transcribed by a Kathy Richardson, of the LDS Church Historian’s office.  Katy Richardson produced a rough typed draft of the recording in March of 1976, but not knowing the family, could not identify who was speaking and asking questions other than Georgius.  Robert Vernon, his then wife Kathryn Barnes Vernon (now Kathryn Barnes Luke) and her sister Mary Alice Barnes reviewed the draft, made appropriate corrections and identified the various speakers/questioners, but no final clean transcription was ever completed.  I was in attendance at this event, and I am now, in September of 2023 completing a final clean transcription based on the original recording (now on compact disk) and the rough draft completed by Kathy Richardson and corrected and clarified by Bob and Kathy Vernon and Mary Alice Barnes in 1976.  Since it is taken from a verbal presentation, and people do not speak in full sentences and paragraphs, and sometimes people speak over the top of others, I have used my judgement on punctuation etc.  I use familiar names to identify speakers throughout the document, with parenthetical clarifications when appropriate.  
 
Here is a list of those whose voices are in the recording of the interview, in the order that they first appear, with their full names and the nature of their relation to Edwin and Luella:

1.    Luella Wareing Cannon - Widow of Edwin Quayle Cannon, in whose home the  interview took place.

2.    Georgius Young Cannon - Main Speaker.  Georgius was the youngest son of George Q. Cannon and Caroline Partridge Young Croxall, and half=brother of Edwin Quayle Cannon.  He was also Brigham Young’s grandson.

3.    Bill Cannon - William Wareing Cannon - youngest son of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

4.    Russell Cannon - Son of Edwin Quayle Cannon Jr and Janath Russell Cannon, grandson of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon. 

5.    Janath Cannon - Janath Russell Cannon, wife of Edwin Quayle Cannon Jr., daughter-in-law of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

6.    Ted Cannon - Edwin Quayle Cannon Jr., son of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing  Cannon.

7.    Mike Cannon  - Son of William Wareing and Margery Sorenson (Marg) Cannon.

8.    Ted Barnes - Edwin Cannon Barnes, Son of Robert Harmont and Mary Alice Cannon  Barnes, grandson of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

9.    Marg Cannon - Margery Sorenson Cannon, wife of William Wareing Cannon, Daughter-in-law of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

10.   Ned Cannon - Edwin Quayle Cannon III - son of Edwin Quayle Canon Jr. and Janath Russell Cannon, grandson of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

11.   Bob Vernon - Robert G. Vernon, at that time the husband of Kathryn Barnes, daughter of Robert Harmont and Mary Alice Cannon Barnes. They were later divorced.

12.   Bill Barnes - William Cannon Barnes - son of Robert Harmont and Mary Alice Cannon Barnes, grandson of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.
 
13.   Mary Barnes - Mary Alice Cannon Barnes, daughter of Edwin Quayle and Luella Wareing Cannon.

The interview:

Luella Cannon- I’m happy to have you all here tonight.  It’s wonderful and I’m thankful Bill (Cannon) for thinking of this idea.  It shows how much he thinks of Georgius, and we all do.  We’ve had a lot of family gatherings here in our lives and they’ve been pleasant to remember.  And, so we wish you all a lot of happiness and we are happy to have you here.  All right Georgius, I’ll let you start whenever you want.

Georgius - Well I’m thinking about this and what I might say and it occurred to me that my life had been spent in an entire different world than you young people know and all, and I might review some of it.  First all, my father was born in 1827 and my grandfather in 1794. Just think, the distance, the years that have passed in just one or two generations in my life.

Bill Cannon - May I interject another dimension to that Uncle Georgius?

Georgius - beg your pardon?

Bill Cannon - another dimension going the other direction? My grandfather was born in 1827.  Let’s see, I was born in 1925, and we have a son that was born in 1973.

Georgius - Well maybe you’ve outdistanced me, Bill.  How many years between your grandfather and your son?  When was Matthew born?

Bill Cannon - Matthew was born in 1973.  So that’s three generations and it covers 148 years.

Georgius - Well, there are 160 years between my grandfather and my oldest grandson, so I’ve got you beat.  I guess it’s something to brag about, I don’t know.

Luella Cannon - Georgius, I think you ought to sit down, and Bill don’t you want to say something about it?    

Bill Cannon - No, no, you go ahead.

Georgius - I’d rather stand.  I never sat down when I was preaching a sermon.  

Luella Cannon - I think it would be hard to stand up and talk.

Georgius - I might say to Russel, he was nice enough to say nice things when he came in.  Do you know how old I am Russell?

Russell Cannon - Well, apparently it wasn’t . . .

Georgius - I’m 83.

Russell Cannon - I guessed wrong when I came in then.  You can’t be 83.  I thought maybe you were Pop’s nephew or something (Pop was Edwin Q. Cannon - he was called that by some of his grandchildren).

Georgius - Well, I told Bill (Cannon), this was just the other day, I told him something that happened that happened often in California.  This wasn’t asked me once, but several times, people said to me, “Let’s see, Georgius, who was your father? I know George J. in the  Beneficial Life, is he your father?”  I said, “No, he’s not my father.  He’s my nephew.”  But in my lifetime I’ve seen the automobile, the airplane, television, radio; all of these things have come about in my lifetime.  So, you youngsters now enjoy all of these, but these were marvels to us each time that they came about.  

I’ve thought also about the fact that we all look to the Cannon family. But actually, what family do you belong to?  Do you belong to the Russell family, do you belong to the Sorenson  family, do you belong to the Ballentine family, or the Wareing family? You see, your blood is getting kind of diluted just now.  But nonetheless there’s a very strong feeling of kinship in the Cannon family, and it’s a good family.  And I remember Father saying again and again about his children marrying.  He hoped they would marry women or men from good strong families. And I remember when your grandfather and grandmother were married, that John Q. spoke about particularly the families.  Do you remember that Luella?

Luella Cannon - Yes.

Georgius - He talked about your family and about the Ballantine’s and the Wareings and so on, a great matter of concern to Father.  And of course they always said that Father ought to have the finest daughters-in-law, and they were all good strong women.  I must confess I am very fond of some of the granddaughters in law. And I know quite a bit about them.  For instance, Janath. . .

(Sound of a door opening and closing)

Bill Cannon - You remember Mike and Patty (Bill Cannon’s son and daughter-in-law), Uncle Georgius?

Georgius - When I went east to school in 1915 (Georgius studied at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology), Janath’s mother was at the New England Conservatory of Music, and I took her out quite a bit, so I know quite a bit about the Rich family.  Then I took Carolyn out some and then after those girls got married I graduated to Avon.  I took Avon out quite a bit so I’m well acquainted with the Rich family, or the girls at least.

Janath Cannon - We might have been more related than we are.

Georgius - Well, I’ll have to tell you an amazing incident, Janath.  I took your mother to one of the fraternity  parties, and we had a Negro waiter who wasn’t very good, and he was passing your mother when he dropped a knife down the back of her dress. And I’ve never forgotten how embarrassed I was over it.  I don’t think your mother was fussed at all.  She took it in stride.  But I have several friends who belong to the Rich family and I must say they are among the loveliest women I know.  I never could understand why the Cannon family was so slow in catching on.  Ted (Cannon) finally did. But, as I said, we lived in an entirely different age.  I don’t think you youngsters have any concept of what it was like to live in a polygamous family.  See, Father had five wives.  Four at one time because he didn’t marry Mother until after his first wife died.  And each family had its house all strung along.  You know where the farm is.  And I’ve often thought, while we were very close as brothers and sisters, we were also very close as neighbors.  It was kind of like living with good compatible neighbors, too.  And your grandfather, Ed, and Collie, for instance, were inseparable companions.  They couldn’t have been closer if they had been, just been friends, let me say.

Bill Cannon - Collie is Laurie Smith’s grandfather.

Georgius - And, of course I suffered because Collie and Wilf were four years older than I was. Claws (Clawson) was seven years older.  Eps and your grandfather were six years older.  So they all played together but they wouldn’t let me play with them. I was too young.  And so I grew up really kind of alone and by myself.  I remember one time I asked them if they wouldn’t please let me play baseball with them.  And they put me out in right field, and the first thing, I got hit in the head with a good swift baseball.  And that of course finished that for me.  But nonetheless I had to do chores.  I was taken off the ______ when I was seven years old.  That was my birthday present.  And, we had those chores.  I always had a pony, so there were many advantages that we had that you city boys don’t know anything about.  We had the river where we used to swim and I tagged along, and I really am kind of surprised the things that I heard these adolescent boys talk about.  I’m surprised that I survived morally, but I did.  And, of course, they didn’t  pay any attention to me.  I was just there.  I just, they didn’t know I was all ears.  But your ancestress, Eliza Tenney, of course I remember all of Father’s wives very, very well, and their characteristics.  And one thing that always impressed me about her was her extreme cleanliness.  Her place was just spotless, always, and this impressed me very much.  And of course, your grandfather Ed was her baby.  He was born, I guess Ed’s mother must have been in her 40s wasn’t she, when Ed was born?  Because he was sixteen years younger than William, and she was married seven years before William was born.  But she was quite concerned about Ed, and of course we played on the farm and we had lots of room.  And I remember her calling “Eddie, Eddie,” and your grandpa  would say, “What? - (spoken very softly)”  And he would never answer so she could hear him.  She always had him wear a reefer until quite late in the spring; and the minute he was away from the house he would take the reefer off and deposit it somewhere where he could pick it up.  He had a cow named Duchess and his mother was very particular about the amount of milk, so if the pail wasn’t quite up to the mark that Ed had on the pail for the amount of milk that he should have, water was added to the milk so his mother would never complain about not having enough milk.  One thing I remember about him:  he was frightened to death of snakes.  One time he was driving a little cart with one horse and he stopped in front of the schoolhouse and one of the boys held a snake up in front of him like this and he just simply fell backwards on the cart and, is that true still?

Mike Cannon - I think that’s a Cannon trait.

Georgius - But he was an awfully good companion.  He and Collie in particular, as I say, were such good friends; and Collie tells that he and Ed kind of planned a life of sin.  They didn’t get anywhere.  They just planned it, Collie said, until Luella got hold of Ed and unscrambled Ed’s brains.  All the kids were human beings.  It was great fun! As I say, we had a swimming pool, this river; this swimming pool was the river. We had the pond where we skated in the winter, and the winters were different then.   We had ice all winter on our pond.  We don’t have that anymore.  They had it, ’til now the way this weather is acting up now.  

I remember Ed had a favorite horse called Spy; and one time I was in the barn with my older brother Claws, and I petted one of our horses, and I said, “This horse is a good old bastard, isn’t it?”  He said, “Where on earth did you learn that?”  I said, “Well, that’s what Ed calls Spy.”   I hope I’m not destroying any illusions about your grandfather, because he was a perfectly wonderful person, and when he come home from his mission, I had grown from, I don’t know, thirteen maybe to sixteen, something like that.  And the first time I saw him, he didn’t pay any attention to me and finally, I was with Collie, and finally he turned to me and he said, “Who are you anyway?”  And so I said, “Georgius.”  After a while, they were living on South Temple then. And he said, “You know, you need a shave,” so he took me in and he gave me my first shave.  And, well, life was very different of course with all the boys and all the brothers and sisters.  

John Q., who was the oldest, was 35 when I was born, and so these were men.  They were people I looked up to.  And, I might say this about the family.  I thought about this many times. When I was six years old and was old enough to comprehend, Frank J. was Senator for Utah.   John Q. was a Brigadier General in the Utah Militia in the Spanish American War.  Abram, who had just died, had been an Apostle, and Father, of course, was very prominent in the Church.  He was in the First Presidency and very prominent in politics.  And so this was my introduction to life.  I thought I was quite amused at what some of the daughter-in-law said about ‘the royal family’.  It was natural that I should, I guess.  And this also was very hard on me because I was so full of faults, and could see so little progress and promise in me, and to be born into that kind of a situation, I thought, well, I suffered terribly from it. It took me years and years and years to overcome my feeling of inferiority about it.

I might tell you a story I told Bill (Cannon) just today, if he won’t mind if I tell it again, about your grandfather’s brother Read, who died when he was, I think, he must have been in his 30s.  He was the middle.  William was the oldest and your grandfather’s - Read was in the middle.  And Read was very deliberate. And one time Father had arranged with Read to get up the next morning and take him into town, drive him into town.  Of course, that was the way we had to get to town.  The only transportation we had was horses and buggies.  And Read didn’t show.  And Father finally, after waiting and growing impatient, walked around and stood outside the window and said, “Read, Read, I want you to take me to town.  You’re supposed to be here.”  And Read said, “All right Pa, I’ll be there.”  Father waited and waited and waited another three quarters of an hour.  No Read.  So he went down quite indignant and he said, “Read, I told you to get up and get down here.  I have to get to town.  I said, you hurry up and get down here.”  and Read said, “Well, I’m hurrying Pa, but damn it all, can’t you wait a minute?”  

Father was of course very imperious and he ruled his family with an iron hand.  I remember, I was telling Ted (Cannon) when they had us here before my brother John Q. died. I wanted a drink of water and went to the kitchen, and your grandfather joined me and we were chatting there, and I said, “You know, Ed, I think it’s a wonderful thing for me that Father died when he did” and Ed looked at me with the strangest look, and he said, “I’ve thought that many times.” And I think that this was illustrated by a remark that my wife made not too long after we were married.  She said, “Did it ever occur to you that when your father was alive, all the boys were failures, and the minute he died, they were all successes?”  You see, he so dominated all the lives of everyone, but he was a marvelous man just the same and greatly loved by all of us.  He was just wonderful.  And the thing that I felt against him most of my life is that I lied to him twice and he didn’t punish me.  And I’ve never forgiven him for that.  He should have punished me. And maybe the greater punishment was to remember.  I had it still on my conscience.

I don’t know what to tell you about Polygamy.  The family I know lived together in great harmony. My mother, of course, had been married before she married father.  She was a girl of sixteen when father courted her.  He was a man of forty and I’ve said many times, “In any other community, a man of forty courting a girl of sixteen, a man who already had four wives, is certainly scandalous.”  But Mother - apparently he said to her then, “You’re mine, and I’ll get you yet.”  She married Mark Croxall.  But about sixteen years later, she divorced Mark Croxall and of course Father knew it because he was in the First Presidency and she had to get a church divorce.  So he married Mother and adopted her five children and the family was quite excited about it.  First of all, Mother was a daughter of Brigham Young and she was young, they were afraid - she was quite a bit younger than the other wives.  They were afraid that she would kind of lord it over them, but she didn’t.  And, both Aunt Martha, Father’s fourth wife, and Aunt Sarah Jane, Father’s second wife, told me, I guess I was maybe in my 30s when they died.  They were well into their eighties, and they told me in almost identical words.  They said, “Georgius, if your mother had been our own sister, we couldn’t have loved her more.”  Well, I think this was a bit true, and I think it shows what existed, what could exist, in the polygamous families.  We just loved all of Father’s other wives.  

I think they were lonely women.  They were marooned down at the farm.  If anyone wanted to see them, they had to drive down.  And I don’t remember that they had any particular social life.  I can remember Aunt Eliza’s sister, Aunt Jane Simon visiting her, and some of the Looses And I remember some of Aunt Martha’s relatives.  But relatively, they had little social life, and after all if you’ve got four wives, you can’t very well say to one of them, “Come on, let’s go to the movie tonight.”  It’s a difficult situation.  Of course there weren’t movies, but if they had any social life, I think they took all their wives mostly.  One of the strange things about Mother’s marriage into the family was that there was considerable jealousy on the part of the Cannon brothers and sisters when Father adopted Mother’s five children.  But it turned out to be kind of ironical, because Mother’s oldest daughter married your Uncle William and her second daughter married Willard - my brother Willard.  Mother had a foster daughter, a niece of hers who lived here, and she married Abram.  So they joined the family legitimately as well as by adoption.  And it turned out all right, very successful.  

I might tell you this:  This is an interesting bit of history, to me at least.  Father’s first wife had died before Father married Mother.  She had been dead some years.  So that under the law, a man had to have a legal wife.  You see, the women married in polygamy were not married legally.  They were married according to the Church, but not according to the law.  When Aunt Elizabeth died, Father had no legal wife, and didn’t have for some years. And Frank J.’s mother, Aunt Sarah Jane, who was the second wife, should have become the legal wife.  But Frank J. said to his mother one time, “Mother, you are getting old, and Father is getting old, and he needs someone to take care of him.  I say you ought to tell Father to make Aunt Carlie - that was my mother - his legal wife, and Aunt Sarah Jane told Father, and Father made Mother his legal wife.  Mother could travel with him and take care of him and look after him because of course she was twenty-four years younger.  So she was, when he was an old man.  When he died he was 74 and Mother was only 50.  So she did all of his entertaining. And an interesting thing about entertaining, of which I am very conscious today:  Father, of course, had been in Congress.  He had many visitors from the East.  Men like Senator Elkins of West Virginia and others, and Mother would entertain with dinner, Mother and Father.  Father always served wine at those dinners.  Always!  And that today, of course, in the Mormon family is not done, is taboo.  But Father felt that it was not his business to tell men what they should do or what they shouldn’t do. These men were used to wine and they had wine for their dinners.  And of course Father didn’t have wine, but the others had.  And it was very interesting:  I travelled with Father great deal and though I was only nine when he died, I had been east with him to New York and Boston and Washington.  I went to the Hawaiian Island with him for the 50th anniversary of the opening of the Hawaiian Mission, and I went to California when he died. And of course Father told me many things.  But it was very interesting when we were in the East.  In Washington, we went to the White House and visited with President McKinley, and President McKinley took the white carnation out of his buttonhole and gave it to me.  And there was some amusing incidents.  Of course, I had no idea, but what if, I thought everybody in the world were a Mormon.  It never occurred to me that they weren’t, until Father’s friends who we met.  I remember Mr. and Mrs. Meyer, he was health drug manufacturer for St. Louis, joined us in Chicago on our way to New York.  Well, I went and called them Brother and Sister Meyer and Father said I shouldn’t do that.  And Mr. Meyer objected strenuously. He said, “You go ahead and call me Brother Meyer”.”  He said, “I like it!”  And so when we were in Washington, I had learned to read.  My sister Anne, who was just older than I, used to make me hear her spelling and I didn’t know what the words were, and so she would tell me what the words were and then I would hear them for their spelling.  So I learned to read before I went to school and so that by the time I was seven or eight I was very proficient at reading.  And at the Shoreham Hotel in Washington, I asked mother if I could go down, there was a room full of typewriters, as I wanted to write a     letter.  So I went down and I was pecking away at the typewriter and two or three young fellows came in, and of course I don’t know if I had turned eight or not.  If I had, I had just turned eight.  It kind of surprised them, I guess, just to see a little fellow peck at the typewriter.  And so they asked me, “What are you doing?”  And I said, “I am writing a letter to my nephew.”  I was writing a letter to Tenney.  “Do you know who Tenney is?”  They said, “Well how old is your nephew?”  I said, “___. I have lots of nephews that are lots older than I am.”  So first thing they started pumping me, and of course, first thing they had the whole story out of me: about Father, my background, and everything else.  And after this was all over, they took me to the drugstore and bought me an ice cream soda.  I was telling Mother about it when I went upstairs, about how nice they     were to me and how they had bought me an ice cream soda and how wonderful they had treated me.  Mother said, “I guess they had a reason.”

Father used to have family meetings and about once a month he would summon the family, and he would instruct them and ask about our good and bad habits.  And, of course, nobody confessed to any bad habits.  I remember the block teachers one time coming to Mother’s house.  Father insisted that they question us.  They took each one of us in turn and asked us if were a good boy, and if we did anything wrong.  And, of course, who is going to confess if they did anything wrong?  Nobody is going to confess that.  And Father was quite stern, though, in may ways.  Of course this was the spirit, the era, the patriarchal era.  This  wasn’t only among the polygamists.  It was all through the Victorian world.  And I remember once Frank J’s son Q and Eps ran away, and Father was quite upset about it.  And so he summoned the family and he whipped the two boys in front of the family, and I think the family were very much upset over that and never forgot it.  I think we all felt that it was cruel and too great a punishment.  But this was part of Father’s sternness, despite that he was, as I say, he was a marvelous person, a marvelous father.  I couldn’t have asked for anyone better.  I dressed and undressed every morning and night in his bedroom, watched him shave. I traveled with him and he talked to me and told me many things about the early days and about his experiences.  

As I say, I went to the Hawaiian Islands for the 50th Anniversary of the opening of the Hawaiian Islands and saw the reverence with which he was greeted. When he was there before, he was called “the White God.”  _______ age six.  He said that after Father came home from his mission, he married.  And, by the way, while he was on his mission, he corresponded, not with Aunt Elizabeth, but with Aunt Elizabeth’s parents.  And he came home and married Aunt Elizabeth - after their courtship, I guess.  But he had known her as a little girl.  But he had translated the Book of Mormon into Hawaiian when he was on his mission.  So Brigham Young sent him to San Francisco to publish it, to print it.  Father was a printer by trade, and to publish the little magazine called the Western Standard.  And he took Uncle David with him and Uncle David said, “Georgius, I want to tell you about that.”  He said, “We were so poor that your father went to work many a morning with nothing to eat for breakfast, and leaving nothing in the house for     his wife and baby.   But he said, “Your father was determined that he had been called to do that work and he was going to do it, cost what it would.”  And he said one time - and I have forgotten whether the man looked Father up or whether Father ran onto him actually out on the street, but this wealthy planter who had known Father from the islands who admired him greatly saw Father on the street and inquired about the situation and found out how poor Father was and gave him $3,000 in cash.  And Uncle David said, “Your Father looked at that money good and hard and finally sent every penny of it to Salt Lake.”  He figured the Church itself needed it more than he did.  And Uncle David said, “I sat in Brigham Young’s office and heard Brigham Young tell your father, “That money saved the Church.”  They had reached the point where they could not go on.  They had had their council and decided they would have to give up and go back, and that money came.  And I said many times, this is the kind of thing to put this thing over.  This is the fortitude and the courage and the character that made this thing succeed.  And I think that’s, to me that has always been a wonderful story. It’s a wonderful index to Father’s character, I think, because I don’t think there was ever a man in the Church who loved Mormonism like Father did.  I don’t think there was ever anyone who preached it like Father did when Father went to the Hawaiian Islands.  He was just pure flame.  He converted so many people and had such success with them and was so humble about it all.  And as I say, they called him the “White God” when we were there - that trip - I remember when they greeted Father, Father had carnation leis up to here.  He could hardly see. And one of the things they had was a convocation in the theater where he talked to keep up the conference really.  He talked to them in Hawaiian.  And the Queen!  It was just after the annexation of the Hawaiian Islands - so the Queen was the ex-queen, but she was there sitting in one of the boxes and later on she asked Father to come and visit her.  And she fell on her knees in front of Father and asked Father to bless her.  So he, among the Hawaiian people, had real stature.  They have never forgotten him, I understand.

Bill Cannon - May I ask you a question Uncle Georgius?

Georgius - Yes.

Bill Cannon - Queen Liliuokalani wrote the Hawaiian song, “Aloha Oe.”  And we were told, I’ve never been able to verify this, I don’t know whether you may know.  But we were told that this was written during the time that you were there and it was written in Grandfather’s honor. Is there any truth to that?

Georgius - I don’t think so.  They were singing it.  That was one of their favorite songs. They sang it a lot.  But I’m sure I would have known that. They sang it just as one of their normal songs.  I don’t think, you know a lot of traditions build up, Bill, that have no real foundation. No, they didn’t seem to sing it in his favor.  When we used to get together in a group of the _______, and so on, the girl sang that just as they would any other song.  I think that’s a misunderstanding.

Well, I think the family has always remained cohesive even after Father died and     Mother died within two years, so that we moved away from the farm when I was twelve.  But they used  to have family meetings and we used to see each other on the street.  I used to see Hugh J., John Q., and as I say, was thirty-five years older and I used to see John Q. occasionally and Hugh J. occasionally.  But the question always was, are you a good boy?  And as I said before, I always was.  There was a great love in the family.  I can’t describe how I felt about my older brothers and sisters.  Well, I’ve said, to me one of the most wonderful things that I can think of in life is to have been one of twenty-two such men.  To have been a brother of those men. They were terrific.  They had their failings, they made mistakes, but they had one quality that I was very conscious of.  If they made a mistake, they can pick themselves up and get back in and do good, so I think that without exception, every one of those men died with the full respect, and honored by all of their fellowmen.  Now if you want to ask any questions, I don’t know what else to tell you.

Luella Cannon - Your father must have made a great many friends in Washington too, didn’t he, with some very outstanding men?

Georgius - Yes, he did, and I might say that. . .

Luella Cannon - At that time the people were down on the Mormons and all and I think it’s amazing.  I don’t know the whole story of how he got to Washington, but I know from what I’ve heard, that people were very interested in him and they tried to get him alone to just learn more and more and more.  I’ve heard of some wonderful things that. . .

Georgius - Well, I think that’s true.  I remember hearing one man told of one of Father’s congressional friends.  See, Father was territorial delegate for years and then he was the Church’s representative in working on the anti-polygamy bill and trying to solve this situation. And then Father was introduced once by one of the congressmen, and the congressman said to the person to whom he was introducing Father, “Mr. Cannon has four wives and I want to tell you a man as good as he is ought to have forty!”

And I ran into an interesting account down in California.  We did a house  for a very wealthy Jew (Mr. and Mrs. Urban Hirsh), the office I was in when I first went down to California.  And their son told me this - either the son told me or the father did, I don’t remember which.  But this boy had gone to McAdoo, who was at that time Secretary of the Treasury for Woodrow Wilson[2]  and had asked Mr. McAdoo to help him and give him some information about a thesis that he was writing.  And Mr. McAdoo told the boy, he said, “I’m willing to do anything I can for you.” Because, he said, “When I was young, I had this experience.”  He said, “I was supposed to write an article about the Mormons and I made inquiry and was told that the person to see was George Q. Cannon, who was then in Washington.”  He said, “I went to George Q. Cannon, and he spent several hours with me explaining fully about Mormons and about the Mormons and so on,” and he said, “I vowed then that if any young fellow ever asked me for any information, I would help.”And the client said to     me, “Was George Q. Cannon related to you?”  I said, “Yes, he was my father.” And I thought this was an interesting sidelight.

Ted Barnes - Would you tell us maybe something about Frank J.’s disenchantment with the Church?  What motivated him?
 
Georgius - Yes, I meant to tell you this anecdote.  Frank J., of course, turned against the Church and for political reasons, maybe other reasons, and was excommunicated in 1904. I was in school in Boston, 1915 to 1918 and somewhere along in 1916, the missionaries told me this.  They said that they were holding  a church street meeting down in Scollay  Square and were talking about the Mormons and being heckled severely. They were getting the worst of it. They said an older man with beautiful white flowing hair pushed his way through the crowd up to them and said, “Will you let me speak?”  And they said they never heard such a defense of the Book of Mormon.  And it was Frank J. Cannon.  He had been out of the Church twelve years.

Ted Barnes - What motivated him to turn away, do you know?

Georgius - Oh, political, and I think Frank was never as good as he should’ve been, and I think that that had to do with it.  Father tried to save him.  Father used him a great deal, and then all of a sudden, Frank wrote the Manifesto, but I don’t know if he did or not.  When Malmquist was writing this book, A Hundred Years of the Tribune’s History[3], he talked to me several times and he told me that he felt sure that Frank J. wrote Tom Kearns’ finest speeches.  And of course, he was gifted.  He had a silver tongue and very gifted.  But unstable, rather unstable.  As I say, he could be on this side, or this side, just as he could defend the Book of Mormon or he could fight against it.  But I think the main reason was political.  He became disaffected politically.  

Luella Cannon - When he died, I heard that his death was announced in Berlin - Berlin, Germany.

Georgius - You mean Father’s?

Luella Cannon - Yes.

Georgius - Oh yes.  Father’s death was announced all over. Lewis was in the East at school at the time, and he said that. . .

Luella Cannon - He attracted a lot of attention.

Georgius - The newspapers then listed the great Americans who had died that year and Father was among them.

Mike Cannon - Georgius, what was it like, and perhaps you were too young, or maybe this was right at the critical period in your life when you were young and he was still alive. What was it like after the Manifesto and after the jail sentences and so on?

Georgius - Well, of course, as I said, Mother was Father’s legal wife so Father lived at our house.  Our house was a monogamous house to all intents and purposes.  Of course I knew fully the situation.  I understood these other wives and the other brothers and sisters, but Father had agreed with the Manifesto that they would live with one wife only and Father lived to that allotment and didn’t fall a bit, as far as I know.  Father was imperious, as I’ve said two or three times.  And I might tell this because I think this is a marked characteristic of Father.  When William, your Grandfather’s brother, was married, he married Mother’s oldest daughter, Ada.  And of course, the temple in Salt Lake City wasn’t finished, and they had to go to Manti to be married, and I was six weeks old.  Father insisted on Mother taking me on that trip and I nearly died.  I contracted pneumonia and I think I caused much more interest than the wedding party did.  But I survived anyway. And my mother-in-law told me that her mother, who was a good friend of Aunt Elizabeth’s - she used to say, “If Brother Cannon would just leave Sister Cannon and the children home instead of dragging them across the plains every time he goes, the children would have lived, because out of eleven children, only six survived.”  But this was Father.  I still remember Mother saying, “Oh, if he just would leave me home.”  Not Father.  He wanted Mother to go and Mother went. Very, very powerful that way.  And I guess this relates back to the story that Aunt Mary Alice, Father’s oldest sister, the child next to him told me - she said Father, as a boy, was very stubborn, and one day he came in from school and threw his cap on the floor and his mother told him to pick it up and he wouldn’t.  And she took him by the nape of the neck and bent him down and made him pick up his cap.  But he shut his eyes so he couldn’t see himself conquered.  He won one argument.  He said he wasn’t going to go to school and his mother said, “Oh yes.”  And he said, “If you send me to school, I’m going to tell Papa about the money you have stashed away in the sugar bowl.”  He stayed home that day. He didn’t go to school.  And I remember after I was married a group of us belonged to a card club.  My brother Wilf belonged and his wife and George M. Cannon Jr. belonged and his wife.  And we were sitting at the table talking and I said to the three girls-in-law, “If you had to characterize your husband and say what his outstanding characteristic is, what would you say?” And in unison and with one voice, “Stubbornness.”  So I guess this is a good Cannon characteristic.

Luella Cannon - How old was Ed when your father died?


Georgius - Ed was about 15.  Ed is six years older than I am.

Luella Cannon - When your father died, I was going to the Lowell School and I was about, I guess, eleven or twelve, and they dismissed the whole school and let them go down to South Temple to watch this large funeral, the largest to be held in Salt Lake, the largest that ever was held in Salt Lake.  I remember we went down to South Temple and they used to have chains between the posts and I sat on those chains and watched that big funeral.  And the carriages were, oh, beautiful.  I’ve never seen anything like them - sort of like baskets painted black.  And all the leaders of the Church were in what they call these long coats (Georgius interjects ‘frock coats’) and little caps and they were dressed, I’m telling you, it was the biggest, longest thing, and that was about the first I ever knew of Cannon.

Georgius - Well you’ve gotten well acquainted with them.

Luella Cannon - So I am very proud of the name, and I’m very proud of that wonderful husband of mine.  

Georgius - You should be.

Luella Cannon - I’m thankful that  Bill (Cannon) has been chosen, and as much as he was chosen for a mission again, chosen for Hawaii (at this time Bill and Marg had received the call to preside over the Hawaiian Mission, and did so from July 1, 1975 until June 30, 1978), because I have been over there three times and I went to the services and they sang songs about George Q. Cannon and we went to the leper island (Molokai) on one trip.  I guess you’ve been to the leper island haven’t you?  

Georgius - Yes.

Luella Cannon - One part of the island is up high and you look down on the lepers.  The son of a woman with whom  we stayed met us with this taxi at the plane and we stayed at her home and it was the loveliest, cleanest, most, well, wonderfully kept place. And she was a very fine-looking woman.  Her name was Emma Koloma, just a typical beautiful Hawaiian.  And her floors were polished, just shining.  It was lovely. The next morning after we slept, I said, “How did you sleep last night?  I hope we didn’t disturb you.”  She said, “I didn’t sleep one wink.”  She said, “I cried for joy to think that a son of George Q. Cannon was in my home.”  And that woman wrote to me for some years.  She had daughter living in California.  I think it’s just amazing the way they almost worshipped your father.  And the Queen, he baptized the Queen, didn’t he?

Georgius - I don’t know.  I think she probably was baptized, Father didn’t.  Father blessed her though.  That I know.

Bill Cannon - He didn’t baptize her, but she was baptized and he blessed her.

Luella Cannon - She knelt at his feet. They sing songs about - I don’t know how they say his name.  I have forgotten.

Georgius and Bill Cannon - Georgi Pukuniahi

Luella Cannon - And so I think he must have been a very remarkable person and I’m glad I married a Cannon.  

Georgius - I am too, Luella

Luella Cannon - I’m glad I know you.  

Georgius - That is interesting to me because over the years Father kind of dropped out of sight as far as the Church was concerned, but the last few years they revived his memory and his teachings again, and I used to come to Salt Lake when I’d come up from California. And the name George Q. Cannon didn’t seem to mean anything.  But now everybody knows his name.  I was in the Post Office the other day mailing some packages.  The fellow looked at my name and he said, “Are you related to George Q. Cannon?”  I said, “Yes, I’m his son.” They all know.  Everybody, it seems to me, in the Church knows about him now, and I’m glad. I think they needed to revive their interest in him.  And how many of you have read Father’s “First Mission?”  I think those of you who haven’t had ought to read it.  I think that’s a remarkable book.  Ted, you have a question?

Luella Cannon - I think he must have had a great mind and qualities, well, qualities that are unusual in anybody.  A very brilliant man, and he must have had great personality (Georgius interjects ‘He did’) and he must have been so outstanding to think that a member of our Church in high place should be, well, called to go to Washington in the position     he had.  I think it’s amazing that he ever did it.

Georgius - He had a great many friends there.  Of course the girls in the family, Winnifred and Alice used to say, “You would never know that these boys had a mother, because you never hear anything about the mothers. It’s just the father that you hear about.”  Which was true.

Mike Cannon - I guess one of the most special things to me as I was growing up and now even more so perhaps is the account of Great-Grandfather while he was in the islands and the encounter he had with his companion about not preaching to the natives, and then finally he had the experience where he said he talked with the Savior.  Did he ever elucidate that?

Georgius - Yes, he told me that.  He told me that when we were traveling on the train. And I think we were on the island of Maui.  He stopped at some rather unpopulated place and he said to Mother, “This is the place,” and I’ve always thought that that’s what he meant.  Nothing was said more than that.  I’ve always thought that that’s what he meant.

Marg Cannon - Did he mention seeing the Savior or did he just talk with him?

Georgius - Wait a minute, who’s asking?

Marg Cannon - Marg.  Did he mention seeing the Savior at the same time, or did he just talk with him? He saw him as well as talked with him?

Georgius - Umm hmm (affirmative).

Marg - That wasn’t clear in his journal, and we’ve often. . . you know, we didn’t know.

Georgius - He told me, he said, “I have seen and talked to him,” I was going to tell you something in connection with that.

Mike Cannon - Did he explain what the Savior told him?  He didn’t explain the substance of the conversation?

Georgius - Well, I surmised.  You see, when they got to the island of Maui he and his partner separated, and he went around the island on one side and his partner went the other.  And he tells how alone he felt.  He couldn’t speak; he was hungry.  He was on his own and he came to this stream, this river or creek, and he was so discouraged. he decided to bathe anyway and put on fresh clothing which he did and he said afterwards he prayed there and I think that was probably where this happened because he always said he had the promise that he would have this great success.  And of course, as he went on, the people met him and he did have this tremendous success.  I don’t know whether this is saying more than should be said, but I’ve always felt that Father, more than any other man, established the strength of the Church.  I don’t think any man ever preached with the testimony that Father had or was devoted to the Church like Father was, or gave it the thought and the effort and so on that Father did.  That may be overstating the case, or may be simply that I am his son that think that. But after I came home from my mission I read the Journal of Discourses through, completely through, but I thought Father gave far and away the strongest sermons.  His and Brigham Young’s were the best sermons.  Brigham Young’s were very practical.  Father’s were too, for that matter, but there was a spirit in Father’s that I missed in all the other sermons.  Of course, Father was in Nauvoo.  You see, Father was a boy of sixteen in Nauvoo when Joseph Smith was killed.  So he knew Joseph Smith.

Ned Cannon - Did he talk to you much about the Prophet Joseph Smith?

Georgius - No, no, not that I remember particularly.  What he told me about, what I remember were more the hardships of what it cost them in the way of effort. And so on.  You see, Father at seventeen, was left the head of the family of seven children.  They were orphaned.  Aunt Mary Alice was sixteen and Charles Lambert wanted to marry her, and she told him she would marry him if he would help get the children across the plains.  And, of course, John Taylor’s first wife was Father’s Aunt Leonora Cannon, and they helped out to get the children across.  But Father came in ’47.  The other children didn’t come for two years.  So Aunt Mary Alice said that when they did arrive, Father had been thoughtful and had left a garden all planted for them so that they had their supplies for the winter.  And was very thoughtful that way.  And I know that his brothers and sisters just adored him and looked up to him.  I think he was truly a great man. One of the hardest things that I have had to battle is to disassociate myself, I hope you understand this, from Father, because I want to live my own life.  I want to be known for my own self. And this has been a hard thing to do, to disassociate myself enough so that people know me for myself.  They know, of course, that I am George Q. Cannon’s son. But I want them to know me for myself.  And I think this is what your father, Ted, meant that night we talked about it.

Bob Vernon - You say there was not any jealousy among the wives in the family?

Georgius - Well there must have been.  Originally, when Mother came into the family, I suppose there was.  But they had a common purpose. They were all being persecuted.  

Bob Vernon - They were all like one big happy family, pretty much?

Georgius - I think so.  I don’t remember any conflict of any kind.  

Bob Vernon - About one wife being jealous, that maybe your father favored one over the other or something?  He was pretty impartial.

Georgius - No, I think Father was just.  And Joseph J. tells me this incident:  After Father married Aunt Martha - I don’t know how long after - Aunt Martha was uptown and had bought a lot of groceries and things at ZCMI and had them sent down to Mrs. George Q. Cannon.  So they delivered them to Aunt Elizabeth and Aunt Elizabeth wouldn’t part with them.  She said, “I am Mrs. George Q. Cannon.”  And so there were things like that, I guess.  I don’t think Father expected to live that closely together - four families - without some conflicts, but certainly in my day, there were none, nor did I hear anything other than the jealousy when Mother married Father because she was so young and because they were afraid she would - being Brigham Young’s daughter - she would try and act superior and so on.  Of course she didn’t, as I told you.  They told me how much they loved her.

Bill Barnes - Margaret Clayton told me that story about the groceries the other night when I was speaking with her. But one other story she told me was, she said she remembered - I guess it was Collie - that George Q. had had a family meeting and asked if there were any questions, and he raised his hand and said, “I have one question.  Why don’t you come to our house anymore?  Why do you always live down there, and why don’t you ever come and stay with my mother anymore?  Don’t you love us?”  And the next morning, he received a message that he was supposed to go and speak with his father.  And in her words, he said that no walk in his life had ever seemed as long as that walk down to talk to his father.  

Georgius - Well, I think the story is a little different.  As Collie tells it, Father called the older boys together and questioned them about their morals, and of course Collie was only about five or six, and didn’t know what morals were.  But after the other boys talked, Collie said he burst into tears, and when Father questioned him, Collie in a sob said, “Well, my mother doesn’t have a sideboard.”  And Father quieted him and the next     morning, Father sent for Collie to come down to talk to him. And that was about the longest walk he ever took in his life, because he didn’t know what Father was going to say to him.  Well, of course, what Father did was to talk to him and explain to him that they were all short of things that they would like to have and so on.  But think of a more amusing story about Collie.  Uncle Angus had a son, had a grandson (actually twin grandsons) named Jack and Chick, and they were about Collie’s age and looked very much like Collie.  And one day Collie was on the street - on Main Street - and he saw Father and Uncle Angus coming, and he said he tried to hide because Uncle Angus was a kisser.  Whenever Uncle Angus saw them, he always kissed them.  And Collie said he didn’t want that, and so he tried to elude their notice.  But Uncle Angus noticed him and caught him and Father looked at Collie and said to Uncle Angus, “Jack or Chick?” and Uncle Angus never got over that, and Collie spoke right up and said, “Papa, I’m Martha’s boy.”  And Uncle Angus never let Father forget that, that Father didn’t know his own child.

Bill Cannon - You wrote a paper years ago, as I remember, called, “I am my own grandpa,” or something like that.  Didn’t you?

Georgius - No. This was about Mother’s foster daughter.  You see, Mark Croxall’s first wife was Mother’s sister, and she died about the time that Mother married Mark Croxall and had two children.  Mame, who was about five years old, and Ada, Mother’s first child, and a son and after Mother married Father, I told you that her foster daughter married Abram and that’s the cousin of mine, Mame.  And then after Abram died, Mame married again.  Well, I will tell you the relationship I said about her. She was related to me in these ways.  She was my sister’s sister, but not my sister.  She was my foster sister.  She was my sister-in-law, she was my cousin-in-law, the wife of my aunt’s husband. So you get these mix-ups a lot.

Luella Cannon - I noticed this in the Cannon family.  From the time I went in, Maud Reiter (sp?) married about the same time I was.  And from then on, in all the gatherings, I noticed the enthusiastic spirit.  They were high-minded  and they were smart and wonderful people, and they aimed high in life and they loved each other.  They were a happy people.  They loved to get together, and I think they just kept it up through the years.  And I have been thrilled to be a member of the Cannon family.  I think they have been a very unusual and wonderful people and very highly thought of.  So I’m grateful to Ed Cannon. It’s all Henry Moyle’s fault.

Georgius - Well, I think we always had a good time together.  I don’t think the Cannons are particularly witty, but they have an awfully good sense of humor, and they have enjoyed each other, and they enjoy a good story, and there’s always a lot of laughter.  John Q. always had nice things to tell about the family, and so did the others.

Mike Cannon - How did you relate to the older boys in the family, your older brothers? They weren’t brothers to you. They weren’t fathers to you.

Georgius - No, no.  They were brothers.

Mike Cannon - Were they?

Georgius - Yes.  very strongly.

Luella Cannon - They were really brothers though.

Georgius - Yes, they were.  They didn’t pay much attention to me.  I have often thought that aside from Mother’s children, my other brothers never seemed to be concerned about me particularly, except when they would see me they would say, “Are you a good boy?”, and of course I always was, I said.  But I think there was a very strong feeling.  I just adored John Q. and Sylvester and all the rest of them - very, very fond of them.  I don’t know how they felt about me.  Of course I was looking up to them.  But I always had a strong feeling, a strong fraternal feeling, for them - very proud of them.  They were always very warm and were fine men.  They were excellent men.

Ned Cannon - Did your father ever show any favoritism, obvious favoritism to any of his sons?

Georgius - Oh, I think I was his favorite.  Oh, I don’t know.  Father - I think the older boys were jealous because when I was eight years old, Father bought me a pony, and something that - the other boys had their horses.  And my brother Claws not long ago told me, he was quite indignant over the way I was treated, and Wilf thought I was spoiled.  I didn’t think so, I still don’t think so. I still don’t think so.

Janath Cannon - Did you get to go on more trips with your father than the other, did you go on more trips with him than the other boys?

Georgius - It’s funny.  Your voices sound as though they came from the same place. What was that Janath?

Janath Cannon - Did you go on more trips with your father than the other boys?

Georgius - Yes.

Janath - Was that one source of favoritism?

Georgius - Yes, I don’t know.  Wilf thought that I had more clothes than the rest of them had, and I think that they - well certainly, Father, at age 65 had a pretty good idea that I would be the last.  And, until I was three years old I had golden curls down to here, and I wore Lord Fauntleroy lace collars and bow ties, and so on. And I think Father made a little more of me than he did - of course, he was living at our house by this time, you see.

end of disc one

Ned Cannon - Did your father ever have talks with the boys about the facts of life?  I mean, in detail?

Georgius - I don’t know.  They certainly knew.  And I was talking about Collie not long ago, last year at the Cannon reunion.  I got my sex education from Collie, and it was a darn good one.  Strangely enough, it always had a moral tone.  I’m quite surprised when I think back how moral our brothers were.  I think there were some dangers.  When John Q. and Frank and Abram were eighteen and twenty, three of Father’s wives were pregnant, and I’ve said, “I don’t think Father had any idea what that meant to those boys - to see three women pregnant from their father the same time.”  Quite apart from the religious sanction.  I think this must have had a powerful effect on those boys. I don’t see how it could have been otherwise.  But I’ve thought about it many times.  I have never known anyone in my career that I thought were more moral than my brothers were.  And of course, they knew the facts of life.  We couldn’t help it.  We were right there on the farm, we were breeding cows and breeding horses, and so on.  I think that’s the way boys should be reared.  If I may be explicit and frank, I think we grew up thinking that such was absolutely normal.  There was never anything hidden about it, and I thought it was a very sane, clean outlook.  And I think the boys have shown that in their lives.

Mike Cannon - Just another curious little sidelight.  How many of the brothers ended up, and sisters ended up with beautiful white flowing hair?  And how many brothers were there? Twenty-two?  And how many sisters?

Georgius - Well you see two of my brothers were Mother’s children, not Father’s.  And there were, let’s see, there were twenty-one of us who were Cannons.

Mike Cannon - Twenty-one boys?

Georgius - Mmm Hmm (affirmative).  Frank had this beautiful mane of white hair.  I don’t know.  I never thought about it.  

Bill Barnes - Did any of them go really bald?

Georgius - Oh yes, well, not really bald.  Father of course was very sparse.  He had a little hair as you can see from the picture there, but I think aside from Frank, I don’t know.  I think Joe, William kept his hair.  Your grandfather kept his.  I would say that Joe and Bish, and Angus, maybe Hugh?  Aunt Martha’s family was the one that always was quite bald.  Willard was fairly bald.  Brig was fairly bald.  I think Rad and Eps probably kept a modicum.  My brother Claws is quite a bit balder than I am.

Mike Cannon - All the Cannons have beautiful white hair, and I was curious though, and my brother has mentioned this several times about the number of boys there are in the family.  They’re predominant.  There are many more boys, it seems like, than girls.  Did you ever remark about that to each other?

Georgius - Father only had seven daughters.

Mike Cannon - Only seven daughters.  Twenty-one boys.

Georgius - Yes, he had thirty-three children all told.  But do you know what the name Cannon means? The original name was Cannanan, meaning white hair.  That’s what the name meant.

Luella Cannon - Ed was the darkest one of them all wasn’t he?

Georgius - Well, Wilf had black hair, but Wilf’s turned white.  Father had black hair at 39 and at 40 Father’s hair was white. It just turned up suddenly.

Marg Cannon - Georgius, how do you spell that name?  This is Marg again.

Georgius - C a n n a n a n.  The real spelling of Cannon, Cannan.  That’s the way it was spelled in the Isle of Man.  But that was changed.  I don’t know, Grandmother and Grandfather Cannon, when they signed their marriage certificate, signed it ‘on’. But the Cannons in the Island spell it Cannan.  All of our relatives.

Bob Vernon - When you said that the reason why Frank became disaffected from the Church was for political reasons, did you mean by that, that he felt that the Church intervened too much in politics, or that the Church and State or. . .

Georgius - Well, of course, one of his books was “The Serpent on the Hearth,”[4]  which was on Brigham Young’s Mormon empire.  

Bob Vernon - Oh yeah.

Georgius - I can’t tell you the history of it.  It had to do with Frank’s election to the Senate, and he changed parties and I don’t know, he felt that the Church was preventing his realizing his political aspirations.  And I think he even blamed Father, because I understand that one time in the Salt Lake Theater, when Frank was talking, Father was so incensed that Father got up and reached down to get his rubbers. He was going to leave and Frank started picking on him and denouncing him.  Frank didn’t have very good judgement.  Some of the other boys didn’t have very good judgement, I guess.  

Luella Cannon - Frank J. was the most notorious in many ways of all the boys.  He was well-known all over the country, and he was so popular that I think it went to his head, don’t you?

Georgius - He was fascinating, but I always thought we was very shallow.

Luella Cannon - He was the handsomest.  He was the most unusual looking man.  Ed visited him in Philadelphia one time, and he showed his great love to Ed.  He did love his family, but he said to Ed, he wrote down, he said, “Ed, I hope you get the right idea of your brother,” and gave him a book, and I have that book.  I have regarded it very carefully because it had some wonderful things in and I think that down deep in his heart he just felt the greatest things but he was so popular (Georgius interjects: ‘Well he was volatile, very unstable’) and called upon everywhere in different groups, notably religious, to speak.  And his appearance!  He is an unusual appearing man.  His hair wavy and his piercing eyes.  He had eyes like his mother, don’t you think?  Aunt Sarah Jane?

Georgius - Well, I always felt about Frank that Frank was unstable, and, I felt, rather shallow.  He was brilliant but I thought he was rather shallow.  He came to see me when I was at school. He was in Boston and called me.  I went down to the hotel and visited him.  You see, when Father died, John Q. and Frank and I were with Father at the time in Monterrey, and I got well acquainted with Frank and John Q. then.  They were just wonderful, but Anne was with us, too.  They were just wonderful to Anne and me.  And I can think of nothing except. . .

Luella Cannon - I think he honored his father very highly.  I have a statement in one of his books, as he was going out to see his father when he was in (Georgius interjects ‘At the penitentiary’) Salt Lake, he said as they approached in the dark and he was with this man who was a body guard (Georgius interjects: ‘Charlie Wilcken probably’) yes, and he said, “As I approached that place thinking of my father, I knew I was about to meet the greatest man that ever lived in my mind.”

Georgius - I think Frank felt that.

Luella Cannon - Yes, he said that.  And how he admired and loved his father and appreciated him.  Well, he made some great statements and it’s a thrill to really read the things he has written.  I prize those writings very much.

Mike Cannon - When did Frank die?

Georgius - Well, I don’t know.  He visited me in 1916, and after we were married - I was married in 1921 - I guess the next summer he was here.  They had a family party out here.

Luella Cannon - I don’t remember the year.  I know he broke ground …

Georgius - So I think it was ’22 or ’23.

Mary Barnes - Oh, I remember him very well.

Luella Cannon - Do you remember the year?
       
Mary Barnes - I don’t remember the year, but I remember him very well.

Luella Cannon - Oh, you were at that funeral.

Mary Barnes - Yes, and I remember seeing him and talking-to him on the street down on 3rd South between Main and State one day.  I was big enough to be downtown alone.

Bob Vernon - It was about 1923 or so[5].

Georgius - I would think somewhere in there.

Luella Cannon - Looking into his eyes was an experience. Those eyes of his, oh dear, he was a very unusual man.  

Janath Cannon - How long did you live in the house, Carlie’s house, there on the corner?  How long did you stay there after. . .

Georgius - I was born in that. . .

Janath Cannon - After your father died, did you go back to that house?

Georgius - Oh yes, we were there for three years after Father died. One year after Mother died.  See, Mother died two years after Father.  I was twelve when we moved away.  And. . .

Ted Cannon - With whom did you live after your mother died?



Georgius - With Carol.  My sister Carol and my brother Willard were married.

Russell Cannon - Do you remember when your father died?  How did it happen?

Georgius - Well, of course.  He had Bright’s disease and he went to California in March (1901).  We left the 8th of March, the morning of the 9th of March, I guess, and he died about the 13th of April (actually April 12) in Monterrey.  He went down to California to see if it would benefit his health.  I think he knew then he was going to die.

Mike Cannon - Were you with him when he died?

Georgius - I wasn’t in the room, but I was in the house.  And before he died he called Frank and John Q. and me into his room and I don’t remember much of this but I have     seen accounts since.  See, I had just turned nine.  He blessed each one of us, and I guess the next morning, Mother told us he was dead.  I might tell you girls a very interesting thing that Collie tells.  When they dedicated the Salt Lake Theater, they had a big ball.  I don’t suppose any of you remember the Salt Lake Theater when it was still usable.  They had a floor that they could put over the seats and make a dance floor and they had planned that.  And so Father went east and bought silk for all of his wives for a dress for the occasion and gave the material to the dressmaker.  Father’s wives went to the dressmaker and were measured for the dress and fitted and so on, and when they got to the ball, all four women were dressed exactly alike. The same material and exactly the same style.  And some the gentiles said, “Wasn’t it quaint of President Cannon to dress his wives alike for this ball.”  I don’t think the wives thought so.

Luella Cannon - I think the Cannon family, as I have known them, have just been outstanding. Their intelligence, their broadmindedness, well, they lived on a high plane of mentality and everything, I think.  I admire them.

Georgius - I might tell you what my daughter said.  She has never lived here.  She has lived in California all of her life and isn’t acquainted with the family.  But when I took the Cannon Treasury down to her and gave her the book, I said to her, “You know, it seems kind of egotistical to me to write a book about yourself.” And she said, “Well I understand the Cannons have plenty of it.”

Janath Cannon - Incidentally, that story of Collins, about his taking the long walk and sassing George Q. Cannon, is in that Cannon Treasury in his own words.  I think you would enjoy reading it.

Georgius - What was this, Janath?

Bill Barnes - That story about Collie.

Janath Cannon - That story you were telling about Collie, the longest walk of his life, is in the Cannon Treasury in his own words.  

Georgius - Oh, is that so?

Janath Cannon - And it’s one of the things in there that’s very choice.

Georgius - Of course they have got a lot of things in there.  Some of the things that I have told.  Well, I don’t think of anything else particularly.  If you have any more questions, ask them.

Group - Very fascinating.  We sure appreciate it, Uncle Georgius.  

Group – Clapping.  

Luella Cannon - You do have a lot of friends.

Georgius - I might say to you young fellows, that Abram was married when he was nineteen and had two wives when he was twenty-one, and had three wives when he was twenty-six.  See what you are missing?

Bob Vernon - So go thou and do likewise, huh?

Luella - If you have any more questions of Uncle Georgius, ask him.

Bob Vernon - That was extremely fascinating, Georgius.  I really enjoyed that.  That’s really good to hear something about.

Georgius - I’ve known Kathy, of course, but I haven’t known to whom she was married.

Bob Vernon - Yes, well, I’m her husband.  This was extremely fascinating. You know, you think of George Q. Cannon and polygamy and all those things as having happened way back, long ago, and the only way you can find out about them is to read the history books.  There are very few people that are alive that have a concept of that.  Just like our grandchildren and great-grandchildren probably won’t have any concept of what we are like except that we have a lot television videotape, I guess, stored away in all the network studios to be rerun in future generations, to show them more what we were like. But -

Georgius - That’s what my older grandson - I talked to him when he was about twenty years old: There is the same difference in age between you and me , as there was between my father and me.  He said, “Oh, I’d hate to have an old man for a father.”

Bob Vernon - Oh boy.  Well, you have maintained a very sharp memory about things that have happened so long ago.  My goodness, things that happened when your father died when you were nine years old, that was seventy-four years ago, and     yet you seem to remember it so vividly and the details.  

Georgius - I can remember one of two things before I was three.

Bob Vernon - Is that right?

Georgius - Bill (Barnes) today was showing a picture of the staircase[6]. I thought after, it was kind of a personal thing to tell, but immediately I remembered being carried up the staircase on a pillow.  I think I must have been only two years old.  But I hurt and I wondered why I couldn’t walk, and I found after, I had been circumcised.  

Bob Vernon - Oh my gosh, You’re kidding.

Georgius - I remember that vividly.  Taking that turn in the stairway, and my brother Claws was carrying me.
    
Bob Vernon - Who was, your mother?    

Georgius - My brother, Claws.

Bob Vernon - Your brother, oh.  How old was he at that time?

Georgius - Probably nine or ten.

Bob Vernon - Is that right?  My gosh, how old were you?  Two years old?

Georgius - I don’t think I could be more than two.  

Bob Vernon -     Two.  Good grief.  To remember back that far is amazing.  Well, they didn’t perform that operation at birth like they do now.  They waited until you were . . .

Georgius - No, Father summoned the family and they operated on everyone.  Some of the older boys told . . .

Bob Vernon - So the older boys got it at that time?

Bill Cannon - What was that?

Georgius - Well, I was telling Bill (Barnes). . .
    
Bob Vernon - Circumcision rites of the Cannon family.  

Georgius - Looking at the picture of the house, he brought back so many memories, things I hadn’t thought about.  One of them, when I saw pictures of the staircase I said, “Bill (Barnes), I remember vividly being carried up that staircase on a pillow.  I hurt and I couldn’t walk and I remember wondering why.  It was because I had been circumcised.

Bob Vernon - I think we ought to convene everybody again and have him tell that one.

Bill Cannon - That’s rich!

Bob Vernon - Those were the good old days, huh?

Bill Cannon - Tell me, how many grandchildren do you have?

Georgius - Three.

Bill Cannon - You have three. And the youngest is how old?

Georgius - Ten.  When I told Doug, when he was about 9 years old, I said, “Doug, it’s the same difference in age between you and me, as there was between my father and me, he said, “Ooh, I’d hate to have an old man for a father.”

Bob Vernon - Well, that’s fascinating.

Georgius - It’s a saga that will never be repeated.

Bob Vernon - You bet!  That is really something.  Did your father have any demonstrable, you know, affection for his wives, or was it kind of a platonic sort of thing, the extra wives?  It was just one big happy family, I guess, huh? Because I heard that some of the brethren that married numerous , numerous wives - really, you know, there wasn’t any romantic feeling between them or anything.

Georgius - I think Father was very just to all of his wives.  I think he was very fond of them. I hate to tell you this when your grandmother was one of the wives, but there has never been any question about the fact that Mother was Father’s favorite wife.  He wanted to marry her, but she wouldn’t. . .

Bob Vernon - Which number was. . .

Georgius - She was number five.

Bob Vernon - Number five?  Was she the young one?  If she was the young one - sixteen?

Georgius - He had wanted to marry her years before, and he said, “You’re mine and I will get you yet.”  I’ve always felt . . .

Bob Vernon - Cannon stubbornness coming out again.

Georgius - …doing away with polygamy.

Bob Vernon -You mean marrying younger women?

Georgius - Well, when you marry a woman and suddenly you discover you are very close to her and you love the other women, but this is a close relationship.  And I can’t help but feel that feeling crept in in some of these other women during their lives.

Bob Vernon - Yes, these young hussies.

Georgius - As long as those me were virile, they fought for polygamy but when they got old. . .

Bob Vernon - That’s interesting.

Georgius - That’s just my own observation.

Bob Vernon - Well, I think that’s interesting.  It’s very interesting.

Bill Cannon - It makes it choice.

Bob Vernon - Yeah, I could definitely see if a guy in his 40’s all of a sudden, you know, decides to marry someone sixteen, the other wives might have at least tinge of questioning about     it.

Georgius - She said, “I wouldn’t marry an old man like you.”

Bob Vernon - Is that what she said?

Georgius - That’s what she said and so she married Mark Croxall, and sixteen years later she married Father.

Bob Vernon - Oh, and she was thirty-two then.  

Georgius - She was thirty-two.

Bob Vernon - Oh, after she divorced him, that first husband, I see.  Well, did she do it because of duty to the principle or because she loved your father or is there any way of knowing that?

Georgius - No, my sister Ada, William’s wife, told me that she thought that when Mother married Father, see Mother was a widow and she had five children and she was     alone and definitely troubled.  Her life was pretty well over, I guess, but Ada said she married Father because she felt that Father would take good care of her and her children.  Of course, it developed into  the most tremendous love affair that I’ve ever known.

Bob Vernon - What was that?

Georgius - I said it developed into the most tremendous love affair I have ever known.  I was living with it constantly.  I can’t imagine two people I’ve ever been around who were so in love.

Bob Vernon - Is that right?

Georgius - Her death was two years after Father died.  I’m sure she had a broken heart. She missed Father so much.

Bob Vernon - Even though she was twenty-four years younger, she died two years after he died?

Georgius - Yes.

Bob Vernon - That’s interesting.

Ted Cannon - Could I get you to come a start the refreshments?

Bob Vernon - Okay.

Bill Cannon - This has been a choice evening.

Group - Jumbled conversation. . .

Luella Cannon - (speaking to Bill Cannon) Is that the best you can do?
 
Bill Cannon - This is the best I can do,  I would much rather sit here than anyplace.

Ted Cannon - Okay, Uncle Georgius, You have something else you could tell us, I understand?

Bob Vernon - Don’t break your neck, we’d better trade places.

Georgius - This is very minor, but it occurred to me that this might be of some slight interest to you.  Aunt Mary Alice told me that the original George Cannon when he was a youngster, probably early adolescence, was so jealous of his younger brother Hugh, his mother made so much fuss over Hugh, because Hugh was such a handsome boy, that George Cannon left the farm and went up to the North part of the island, which was ten or fifteen miles away and stayed for three years.  And this reminds me of an incident that happened in Pasadena about thirty-five years ago.  I was invited out to dinner and one of the guests was a man who had lived in Salt Lake, and had worked for the Tribune, and he said to me, “I have never seen so many handsome men in my life as there are in the Cannon family.” He knew Father’s sons and he knew Uncle Angus’ sons, and I’m reminded of that when I see all of you young fellows here.  It still persists.  I’m glad it does, and     I’m glad that you’re still producing good-looking boys and men.  But I want to go on and tell about Grandfather. This great-grandfather of mine, and your great-great-great-grandfather.  After the first world war they talked a good deal from the Tabernacle about law and order and I finally said, “They’re not talking to me when they talk about law and order.  They’re talking to the wrong person, because my great grandfather was a pirate and a free-booter and a slave trader and I think quite a ruffian because he was killed in a mutiny on his own vessel. And you don’t kill a man unless there is something wrong with him, unless he had     been pretty cruel or something like that.  And besides, he was a slave trader” and I shouldn’t even breathe this, but I’m going to anyway.  I said, “If his morals were the morals of the other slave traders, I’m sure Father had some black aunts and uncles.”  And I said, “He began the story.”  My Mother’s ancestors fought in the Revolution that was against the king and against law and order.  Brigham Young was supposed to be one of the worst renegades of the century and he was my grandfather.  My father sat in the penitentiary for violating the law, the Edmunds act, and so on.  And I said, “When they sent me on a mission, they sent me to Germany with explicit instructions not to register and I was there for two and a half years in open violation of the law and with the full sanction of the Church.”  I said, “Now they talk to me about law and order.”  And I think this is in our heritage. I think this resistance is part of the Cannon nature and I said about Father, “Father was in violent opposition the law when he was espousing polygamy and so on.  I think we all have that, and I wanted to make this comment about these two things.

Bob Vernon - We believe in honoring, obeying and sustaining the law, right?

Georgius - If it doesn’t conflict with our ideals.

Bob Vernon - If it doesn’t conflict with our ideals, right.

FOOTNOTES:

[1]  Georgius was a prominent Architect, based for most of his professional life in Pasedena, California.  While he did design a number of commercial projects, he specialized in private homes.

[2]  William Gibbs McAdoo (1863-1941)Secretary of the Treasury from March6, 1913-December 15, 1918 under his father-in-law, Woodrow Wilson.

[3]  Actually titled ‘The First 100 Years: A History of the Salt Lake Tribune (1871-1971)’ by O. N. Malmquist.

[4]  I can’t find any record of a book by Frank J. Cannon with this title.  I believe Georgius must be talking about the book: “Brigham Young and His Mormon Empire”, authored by Frank J. Cannon and George L. Knapp, published by the Fleming H. Revell Company in 1913.  

[5]  Frank J. Cannon actually died on July 25, 1933, in Denver, Colorado.

[6]  The staircase referred to is in the home Georgius was born in.  The home was George Q. Cannon’s wife Carlie’s (Carolyn Partridge Young Cannon) home on the Cannon farm, and sits today on the southwest corner of California Avenue and 10th West in Salt Lake City.  Bill Barnes took a ‘History of Utah Architecture’ class during Spring Quarter of 1975 at the University of Utah.  As a project for that class he did a historical survey and documentation of that house, including a full photographic survey, both interior and exterior.  Those are the photographs Georgius refers to here and elsewhere in his comments.